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batgirl

Can anyone spell this, translate it and explain it to me?

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social_climber

Not sure, but I can find out.

Lancelot325

Where are them germans when you need them ? It looks like Ber Rosche Schachcober.

Now, if we rewrite it like this: Der Rosche Schachcoder, then perhaps someone aus Deutschland could help.

Schach = Chess. That much ich weise.

batgirl

Rochsche Schachcoder or Kochsche Schachcoder?

bolzenbert

Der Kochsche Schachcodex. The x looks like an r so I suppose it's a mistake as coder is not a German word. It just means "Koch's chess codex". Koch seems to have been a theologian in the 19th century who also published chess articles and books. As far as I can see the codex was a collection of games from Greco, Philidor and other players.

batgirl
social_climber wrote:

whore

I predict a sort life for you here.

blackrabbitto

http://feefhs.org/guides/German_Gothic.pdf

 Don't know if this sort of site helps; sadly I can't read it, and I know little German anyway. I can make out the word 'Schach' in the second word.

Alpenschach

I think it is supposed to mean "der Kochsche Schachcodex"

der = the

Kochsche: Koch is a name. Kochsche means of Koch / by Koch

Schach = chess

codex = book.

the chessbook by Koch

batgirl
bolzenbert wrote:

Der Kochsche Schachcodex. It just means "Koch's chess codex". Koch seems to have been a theologian in the 19th century who also published chess articles and books.

Thanks a lot

!.  That makes sense.  I also found "Koch'schen Schachcodex"

Raspberry_Yoghurt

"Der Kochfchen Schachcoder"

Coder probably means a codex (a summary of everything in a field), and not a code. (Like morse code.)

So I'd guess it means "the comprehensive book about all things chess-related written by Koch."

bolzenbert

I just googled again and it seems to have been a collection of older chess literature, not of master games.

batgirl
Alpenschach wrote:

the chessbook by Koch

That's the sense in context of what I was trying to read. Thanks.

Raspberry_Yoghurt

You get a lot of old books written in gothic letters if you google it

https://www.google.dk/search?q=Der+Kochfchen+Schachcoder&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=H_2BVZedNIKMsgGmpYHwCA#q=Der+Kochschen+Schachcoder

bolzenbert

http://www.kwabc.org/archive/Praesentationen/Koch_Vortrag.pdf

Here's a presentation on Koch with some pictures.

batgirl

Well, this was from a book published in 1826 by the famous chess player, von Hirsch Silberschmidt.  I'm not familiar with any Koch Chess Book.... yet.

batgirl
bolzenbert wrote:

http://www.kwabc.org/archive/Praesentationen/Koch_Vortrag.pdf

Here's a presentation on Koch with some pictures.

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That it.  Thanks.

Raspberry_Yoghurt

And here is volume 3 of the the book refered to, "Kodex der Schachspielkunst" from 1834. So your sentence is a sort of daily-language referral to it and not the correct title. Must have been a popular read then.

https://books.google.dk/books/about/Kodex_der_Schachspielkunst.html?id=AqJAAAAAcAAJ&redir_esc=y