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Hello people, a few hours away from game 11 of the WC2016, excited?

I have an important question and here it goes: In my life I have mastered "the art of learning" quickly, and since I have stepped into many different domains in life, I have learned that there are always shortcuts, to maximise your learning, to learn more in the same period of time. And I can tell that by just playing you're not really pushing your comfort zone further enough to get better as fast as you desire (I desire)

So my question is, I need shortcuts, keywords, tips, to start working, where should I go? Should I read books? Should I play more? Should I keep it balanced? What videos should I watch? Do I start by memorizing the most usual variations in the game? Or do I start by strategic understanding of the game?

I know that to become a great chess player, you have to have all of the above, I'm not ignoring any of it, I'm looking for someone who can guide me, who can give me a clue - a clue that could be a book, a youtube channel, a website, a strategy, a work method- that will make my progression faster and more effective. Thank you in advance, don't forget to love each other! <3

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fiwolf wrote:

"ART OF LEARNING", you say? GO AND LEARN THEN. WHY CREATING THIS POST IF YOU CAN LEARN YOURSELF?

THE ONLY WAY TO LEARN IS TO PLAY. WIN AND LOSE, WIN AND LOSE. COMFORT ZONE? OH GOD. YOU REALLY HAVE ONE.

GET LOST.

Like I said don't forget to love each other, I love you

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buy Jerremy Silman books  . watch videos of Backyard professor on you tube . there are few of his videos , unfortunately he died .study the training system given at chess.com and train accordingly .

remember the most important key factor is development of your THINKING SYSTEM which will help you in finding the correct move . google "thinking system in chess" , several will pop out . study these systems and start using them in your games . second key-factor analysis of your games that you lost because "you learn little from victory , more from defeat"

i hope this helps ...wink.png

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Play a few games on LSD and everything will come into proper focus for you.

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There is no royal road to chess mastery.

Playing slow time-control games, replaying master games (especially if annotated by the players), and reading good chess books will all help. The definition of a "good" chess book changes with your playing strength, of course. A beginner probably wouldn't get full value out of Kmoch's "Pawn Power in Chess" or Nimzovich's "My System", no more than an advanced player would get full value from one of Fred Reinfeld's hack classics.

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Just play more dude. Get more accustommed to the flow of the game. Watch others play, listen to what they say, and try to understand the mindset of a good chess player. Get more experience playing, and after you lose figure out why you lost and play some more to avoid losing in the same way. It can be difficult if you're just starting to play. Make sure you dont set the bar too high for yourself. Try to improve 50 points at a time. Treasure your milestones. Failure and frustration is normal. As long as you stay tenacious, and keep your interest for chess above all else, you can broaden your understanding a great deal.

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I know what you mean by mastering the art of learning. I've also been in many fields and I've played chess off and on for decades, so I've learned how to learn. Here's what I perceive to be the sad truth of the state of the art of chess: Really good learning material simply doesn't exist in chess.

After centuries of chess, learning chess by now *should* be almost mechanical: first lay out a small set of all the general areas to learn well (strategy, tactics, opening, middlegame, ending, a book with at *least* 200 common spatiotemporal patterns in chess, a database that explains ideas & plans as well as moves with popularity statistics and outcome statistics, a collection of master games to peruse, visualization practice software, visualization subskills, a list of common mating patterns, extensive practical experience, plus maybe a few minor, miscellaneous topics), then have a grading system that tells you when you've mastered each area and how well. But nothing even close to that exists. Heck, pathetically many important and common chess concepts don't even have names. I've had to basically create a basic foundation of much of this from scratch--names of patterns, names of openings and variations, a list of miscellaneous patterns, an annotated database, my own plan language, even the basics of how to visualize and how to keep track of material superiority in an efficient manner. All this took years, and I'm far from having a comprehensive, organized set of documents that would be worthy of publishing. That's what you're up against. Chess learning just isn't there yet: it's largely ad hoc, part of it seems to be kept secret, and major foundations are missing.

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As with everything worth doing, it takes a lot of hard work, and there are very few shortcuts.

But to give you some insight,  you are trying to build pattern visualization memory banks into your brain by repetition.

The stronger you get as a player the larger your memory  banks will be.

There are 4 different memory banks.

1. Tactics pattern visualization memory bank

2. Endgame technique pattern visualization memory bank

3. Opening pattern visualization memory bank

4. Middlegame pattern visualization memory bank

 

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Sqod wrote:

Here's what I perceive to be the sad truth of the state of the art of chess: Really good learning material simply doesn't exist in chess.

I disagree.

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I know I have a low score but i recently started. Wardell the main way I improve my game and learn to adapt to others is simply just to play all kinds of people. I have played lots and lots of people that all have different tactics and sometimes theirs are better. After either a loss or a win you should review it, see how you could have done better, and see if their strategy can somehow benefit yours. But dont forget that victories are still victories and you shouldnt always point out things you did wrong but sometimes things you did rightbk.pngwk.png

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Sqod wrote:

I know what you mean by mastering the art of learning. I've also been in many fields and I've played chess off and on for decades, so I've learned how to learn. Here's what I perceive to be the sad truth of the state of the art of chess: Really good learning material simply doesn't exist in chess.

After centuries of chess, learning chess by now *should* be almost mechanical: first lay out a small set of all the general areas to learn well (strategy, tactics, opening, middlegame, ending, a book with at *least* 200 common spatiotemporal patterns in chess, a database that explains ideas & plans as well as moves with popularity statistics and outcome statistics, a collection of master games to peruse, visualization practice software, visualization subskills, a list of common mating patterns, extensive practical experience, plus maybe a few minor, miscellaneous topics), then a grading system tells you when you've mastered each area and how well. But nothing even close to that exists. Heck, pathetically many important and common chess concepts don't even have names. I've had to basically create a basic foundation of much of this from scratch--names of patterns, names of openings and variations, a list of miscellaneous patterns, an annotated database, my own plan language, even the basics of how to visualize and how to keep track of material superiority in an efficient manner. All this took years, and I'm far from a comprehensive, organized set of documents that would be worthy of publishing. That's what you're up against. Chess learning just isn't there yet: it's largely ad hoc, part of it seems to be kept secret, and major foundations are missing.

I agree with most of this. It's amazing how ham-fisted and haphazard institutional material is. Sure you can find a good book on a single subject, but finding a good book or series on playing chess well in general doesn't exist (at least not in the way you might find for other skills).

Trying to come up for a reason, maybe it's because not only is chess performance based (not purely knowledge based) but on top of that, you can play equal to or worse than your opponent 59 moves out of 60 and still win the game. As an aspiring educator this may lead to a lot of distraction on what information is important when e.g. well educated, and generally high performing pupils perform worse than some poorly educated players.

And of course exceptional players are unaware of the fundamentals (they've done them unconsciously since pre-teen years) so as author-level adults they have no idea how to cover some of the most basic subjects.

 

Let me give a few examples of basic subjects that are not covered:

1) What is piece coordination?

I saw in a GM book a self-evident (even to a non-player) definition: "coordination is pieces working together to achieve a goal." What a waste of ink. You wont find the following in any book, because I came up with it myself. There are two basic types of coordination: first is pieces combine together on a single square or line (think of doubled rooks). Second type is pieces combine to cover alternating squares (think of your two bishops side by side).

2) Any kind of list that can answer this type of question:
What are all the types of moves to meet a mate threat on your king?

For example the types of moves you have to check would be:
a) Capture a piece that threatens mate
b) Add a defender to the square where mate is threatened
c) Clear an escape square by moving one of your pieces
d) Move a piece to interfere with a line of attack involved in the mate threat (i.e move a piece between)
e) Play a larger threat that your opponent must meet ( a check or a shorter/more forcing mate sequence)

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WardellStephCurry30 wrote:

Hello people, a few hours away from game 11 of the WC2016, excited?

I have an important question and here it goes: In my life I have mastered "the art of learning" quickly, and since I have stepped into many different domains in life, I have learned that there are always shortcuts, to maximise your learning, to learn more in the same period of time. And I can tell that by just playing you're not really pushing your comfort zone further enough to get better as fast as you desire (I desire)

So my question is, I need shortcuts, keywords, tips, to start working, where should I go? Should I read books? Should I play more? Should I keep it balanced? What videos should I watch? Do I start by memorizing the most usual variations in the game? Or do I start by strategic understanding of the game?

I know that to become a great chess player, you have to have all of the above, I'm not ignoring any of it, I'm looking for someone who can guide me, who can give me a clue - a clue that could be a book, a youtube channel, a website, a strategy, a work method- that will make my progression faster and more effective. Thank you in advance, don't forget to love each other! <3

Depends on how far you want to go. Reading/viewing casually online to pick up some basic information plus a big focus on tactics and the idea of structuring your calculation around forcing moves likely provides the highest short term acceleration.