The much weaker Stockfish 12??
I don't think there's a human who can beat Stockfish 12.
It's like saying you'd lose a footrace now to a 2022 car with a V8 engine. As long as it runs, I'm pretty sure you'd lose to a 50 year old Ford Pinto, too.
The much weaker Stockfish 12??
I don't think there's a human who can beat Stockfish 12.
It's like saying you'd lose a footrace now to a 2022 car with a V8 engine. As long as it runs, I'm pretty sure you'd lose to a 50 year old Ford Pinto, too.
I'm not saying anyone can beat stockfish 12, I am just saying it is not as good as stockfish 14. While a human can not beat an engine, if a human were to learn from what an engine was saying it would be nice to know that the engine is not giving false information (or at least false considering the new information we have with a newer, and stronger engine). This is especially useful for when studying openings I believe
You aren't wrong, but I still believe it is good to have something that is more likely to be correct about what is the best move. This way you can learn from your mistakes without learning something that may be inaccurate with the new technology
Also I believe somebody tested stockfish 14 vs stockfish 12 and the score was Stockfish 14 : 6.5 and Stockfish 12 : 3.5. Considering engines are supposed to play perfect moves Stockfish 14 is a lot stronger
I guess it is a matter of opinion. From chess.com's point of view some people may want to analyse with the strongest engine available, so they may analyse on another app/website if chess.com doesn't have the newest and most powerful engine. Whereas it is much less likely somebody will want to analyse with a weaker engine and go to another app/website to do it. This may be the reason why chess.com added it but I don't know, just a guess
I myself, like to have the strongest engine available on this site. I know other members may care less though, or may even not want a stronger one. Also sorry if it sounded like I was referring to Stockfish 12 as 'weak', I was just trying to say it was weaker than the new Stockfish 14
You are aware right chess.com is a commercial site? There is no way they are using the latest version of a free engine. This is why lichess has the latest version since it takes no profit. Ironic uh? You spend real cash only to get no best analysis
You are aware right chess.com is a commercial site? There is no way they are using the latest version of a free engine. This is why lichess has the latest version since it takes no profit. Ironic uh? You spend real cash only to get no best analysis
Oh, I thought stockfish 14 was the newest Stockfish version. My bad
I agree with Mimic. We're not GMs.
I still prefer to have the newest version. But yes, I do understand it isn't necessary
You are aware right chess.com is a commercial site? There is no way they are using the latest version of a free engine. This is why lichess has the latest version since it takes no profit. Ironic uh? You spend real cash only to get no best analysis
Oh, I thought stockfish 14 was the newest Stockfish version. My bad
Stockfish developers have their own policy whether any commercial site is allowed to use second or previous version of the engine. If chess.com still uses 12nd version then there must be a reason. Why doesn't this site upgrade it into 13rd version. Certainly its not allowed to use the latest/newest version, beta or not
You are aware right chess.com is a commercial site? There is no way they are using the latest version of a free engine. This is why lichess has the latest version since it takes no profit. Ironic uh? You spend real cash only to get no best analysis
Oh, I thought stockfish 14 was the newest Stockfish version. My bad
Stockfish developers have their own policy whether any commercial site is allowed to use second or previous version of the engine. If chess.com still uses 12nd version then there must be a reason. Why doesn't this site upgrade it into 13rd version. Certainly its not allowed to use the latest/newest version, beta or not
But I have seen that it is using Stockfish 14, is it a glitch/error?
Wait...i need to re-read this thread and might need to google to get some info
Maybe i took something wrong here
I am on smartphone so i can't see which versions of stockfish and komodo does this site currently uses..maybe it upgraded them without me knowing it
Edit :
okay I was wrong actually!
this site is already using stockfish 14.1
also in the TOS made by stockfish developers, the usage of the engine involves commercial purposes
Permission :
Commercial use
Modification
Distribution
Patent use
Private use
Limitations :
Liability
Warranty
Conditions :
License and copyright notice
State changes
Disclose source
Same license
....Sorry about that
Wait...i need to re-read this thread and might need to google to get some info
Maybe i took something wrong here
I am on smartphone so i can't see which versions of stockfish and komodo does this site currently uses..maybe it upgraded them without me knowing it
Edit :
okay I was wrong actually!
this site is already using stockfish 14.1
also in the TOS made by stockfish developers, the usage of the engine involves commercial purposes
Permission :
Commercial use
Modification
Distribution
Patent use
Private use
Limitations :
Liability
Warranty
Conditions :
License and copyright notice
State changes
Disclose source
Same license
....Sorry about that
All good, thanks for the info!
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe chess.com has now added stockfish 14 to replace the much weaker stockfish 12 in the analysis. I have only 1 question, it seems the lines are a lot stronger than the sidebar and the thing that tells you if it was the 'best' or a 'inaccuracy', am I correct? And if so, why is this? Would it be too laggy on bad devices with a strong stockfish 14 for the lines, the sidebar and the thing that tell you how good the move you played was?