New Daily Puzzle Concept

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Avatar of Ender_the_dragon

While reading the commentary on today's Daily Puzzle, I came across an interesting idea.  In response to the continuous barrage of 'Easy' spam posts, one member suggested that the puzzle solution be delayed a day.  Another suggested that the solve time and number of incorrect tries be recorded.

I think these are great ideas.  Way too many people write 'Easy' without proving that they've even solved it at all, much less on the first try.  I would love to see the true score of the person who is posting (solve time if any and number of incorrect tries).  The puzzle should also automatically reset if your move is wrong, recording an incorrect try and forcing you to start from the beginning. 

You'd see a lot less 'easy' bragging since the people with poor scores would be a lot less likely to post.  In addition, you could identify the level of difficulty of the puzzle by measuring the solve rate and time against the rating level of the solving players.

Of course, after the first person posted the solution publicly, all bets would be off since cheaters could read ahead and then 'solve' the puzzle on the first try.  Still, it would be an improvement and there would be much glory for the first person who could prove that they had actually solved it, especially if it was quickly and on the first try.

 

Thoughts?

Avatar of burntchips

Excellent ideas, people-who-came-up-with-those. Although where would we put the pagedisplaying the stats? How would we make sure someone doesn't spoil the answer for everyone else* before the official unveiling?

*like this, puzzle below

 

spoiler guy post below

And even if diagrams were unavailable, how do you prevent this:

THE ANSWER IS 3.Qh5#, i did it, i did it,i did it, i did it,i did it, i did it,i did it, i did it,i did it, i did it,i did it, i did it,...

Disabling commentary is a bad idea, especially for the newer puzzles affected by this; you would be disabling innocent comments like this one:

I like this new feature! its great! Laughing

Well that is all.

Avatar of Ender_the_dragon

I think the commentary would need to stay, and we would expect, of course, that some people would need to brag that they solved it and post the solution.  Still, the people who are smart enough to actually brag and have their stats displayed to prove it are not the problem and never were.  I think the idea is to get rid of the morons who spend half an hour solving the puzzle and when they nail it after 50 tries feel the need to announce how smart they are by posting the word 'easy'.  If along with their post, they realized that they would also be displaying the fact that in took them 50 tries and a half-hour, they would probably rethink the whole posting idea in the first place.  Thus, the only people who would probably be inclined to post would be the people who have something legitimate to add such as alternate solutions or attempts to refute the validity of the puzzle, which I think is the 'good' discussion we are trying to promote.

Avatar of TheGrobe

The idea of recording peoples performance on the daily puzzle was floated some time ago with the idea of appending their stats onto the posts they make in the puzzle's forum topic.

Avatar of Golbat

I was under the impression that chess.com was originally trying to simulate the daily puzzle on another *cough* chess site, at which the barrage of "easy" posts does not exist thanks to the maturity of their community.

Avatar of rooperi

A simpler way would be to not include the solution in the puzzle at all.

Let the solver prove he solved it by doing that....

I must admit, I am also greatly annoyed by all the attention seeking, I have even been tempted to put up puzzles with false solutions to expose them......