New(er) player - Getting rooks into play!
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Jun 24, 2011
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frankee wrote:
Move them
hahaha, amazingly helpful.
OP - casteling does help, but one of the easiest ways is to put them on open files, or partially open files. those being the files that you have no pawns on. for instance, if you have captured with your e-pawn (or the e-pawn has been captured) it is a good idea to put the rook on the e-file.
as a basic member do you have access to the "computer workout"? that would probably have some rook things in it. chessmaster aslo has some good tutorials on rooks if you have that.
Estragon i don't think anybody will read this,but who know ;D, iInteresting part is about half open files for rooks,
pastorjim wrote: So what is an effective way to get rooks more involved in my game?
- Blast open files.
- Put your rooks on the open or half open files you created. (If you can, do this before you blast the file open)
estragon has given you good advice and motivation.
Kolegamackaa wrote:
Estragon i don't think anybody will read this,but who know ;D, iInteresting part is about half open files for rooks,
I read it and thought it was helpfull :).
Untill now I did not know what open and half open files where.
i_r_n00b wrote:
Im pretty sure that wasn't a serious answer, as I know you should not do it (and your rating is higher than mine). A valid question however is why not?
I think it's because before you have gotten your rooks there, you have done 6 moves, in which the opponent has already done some development and already has a pretty firm control of the center. Further those rooks can be too easily attacked by the opponents bishops and knights and thus have to move again most likely to the side of the field and thus give your opponent even more development and the middle of the field. Am I correct? (im trying to get a very basic opening and positional understanding)
Anyone willing to play an unrated game against me, were you play serious and I try to open like that to see what happens and why it's not a good idea to do.
DanaEileithyia wrote:
i_r_n00b wrote:
Im pretty sure that wasn't a serious answer, as I know you should not do it (and your rating is higher than mine). A valid question however is why not?
I think it's because before you have gotten your rooks there, you have done 6 moves, in which the opponent has already done some development and already has a pretty firm control of the center. Further those rooks can be too easily attacked by the opponents bishops and knights and thus have to move again most likely to the side of the field and thus give your opponent even more development and the middle of the field. Am I correct? (im trying to get a very basic opening and positional understanding)
Anyone willing to play an unrated game against me, were you play serious and I try to open like that to see what happens and why it's not a good idea to do.
You've got it correct Dana. I would also add, that the rooks hinder the development off your other pieces. Send me an invite, I'll play you. (Turn based)
Jun 25, 2011
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DanaEileithyia wrote:
Im pretty sure that wasn't a serious answer, as I know you should not do it (and your rating is higher than mine). A valid question however is why not?
I think it's because before you have gotten your rooks there, you have done 6 moves, in which the opponent has already done some development and already has a pretty firm control of the center. Further those rooks can be too easily attacked by the opponents bishops and knights and thus have to move again most likely to the side of the field and thus give your opponent even more development and the middle of the field. Am I correct? (im trying to get a very basic opening and positional understanding)
Anyone willing to play an unrated game against me, were you play serious and I try to open like that to see what happens and why it's not a good idea to do.
i was too slow - so i would add that you have weakened your pawns where you would want to castle.
Artsew wrote:
DanaEileithyia wrote:
i_r_n00b wrote:
Im pretty sure that wasn't a serious answer, as I know you should not do it (and your rating is higher than mine). A valid question however is why not?
I think it's because before you have gotten your rooks there, you have done 6 moves, in which the opponent has already done some development and already has a pretty firm control of the center. Further those rooks can be too easily attacked by the opponents bishops and knights and thus have to move again most likely to the side of the field and thus give your opponent even more development and the middle of the field. Am I correct? (im trying to get a very basic opening and positional understanding)
Anyone willing to play an unrated game against me, were you play serious and I try to open like that to see what happens and why it's not a good idea to do.
You've got it correct Dana. I would also add, that the rooks hinder the development off your other pieces. Send me an invite, I'll play you. (Turn based)
I tried but you are not accepting challenging atm :(.
@Planeden I totally forgot about castling, which is a real weakness I experienced in the few 960 games I played.
DanaEileithyia wrote:
I tried but you are not accepting challenging atm :(.
Neither do you 
. I changed my settings now.
Artsew wrote:
DanaEileithyia wrote:
I tried but you are not accepting challenging atm :(.
Neither do you . I changed my settings now.
Yes set a game limit because of upcoming exams and because I work a lot lately.
A bit self protection is healthy :).
Challenged :D!
Obviously "castling" helps get the Rook into a better place.
But I still find that in many games I can't seem to get them out in the game doing what they can.
So what is an effective way to get rooks more involved in my game?
Thanks,
Jim