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borovicka75

I also would be able to solve several hundreds of very easy puzzles but i have much more belief in solving hard ones.

EDGE301
borovicka75 wrote:

What amount of time you spent solving 500 puzzles?

I did it in like 1 day

dontprepagainstme

Don't let all the disrespectful comments get to you bro. You have a plan and you're ultra focused on achieving it. 99% of people can't even get to that point. Best of luck

EDGE301
dontprepagainstme wrote:

Don't let all the disrespectful comments get to you bro. You have a plan and you're ultra focused on achieving it. 99% of people can't even get to that point. Best of luck

yup

MaestroDelAjedrez2025

I guess so

mikewier

I am a retired college professor of psychology. Research on learning theory would argue against your proposed plan if study.

First, it is well known (with research going back to the early 1900s) that massed study is less effective than spaced study. For example, if you have 10 hours to study, it is much more effective to use 10 1-hour blocks than one 10-hour block of time. You will learn more and retain it better if you use spaced practice.

Second, there is limited gain from over practicing already well-learned activities. Your rating is 2000. You should already have learned basic tactics. Working on 200 puzzles a day will largely be a waste of time. If you want to do a few puzzles at the start of a day to warm up, that is understandable. But the rest of your time doing puzzles will have limited benefit.

Third, your goal is the 2200 level. You need to work on the skills that differentiate Masters from Experts. As your playing skill increases, positional play becomes increasingly important. Tactics are fine in bullet and blitz chess. But a developing Master needs to improve their positional understanding. For this, you should use slower time controls. At your level, several hours of study and classical play will be more helpful than the same amount of time solving puzzles and playing bullet.

If you are training in person with an IM, I suspect that they would give you the same advice.

Good luck with your program.

EDGE301
mikewier wrote:

I am a retired college professor of psychology. Research on learning theory would argue against your proposed plan if study.

First, it is well known (with research going back to the early 1900s) that massed study is less effective than spaced study. For example, if you have 10 hours to study, it is much more effective to use 10 1-hour blocks than one 10-hour block of time. You will learn more and retain it better if you use spaced practice.

Second, there is limited gain from over practicing already well-learned activities. Your rating is 2000. You should already have learned basic tactics. Working on 200 puzzles a day will largely be a waste of time. If you want to do a few puzzles at the start of a day to warm up, that is understandable. But the rest of your time doing puzzles will have limited benefit.

Third, your goal is the 2200 level. You need to work on the skills that differentiate Masters from Experts. As your playing skill increases, positional play becomes increasingly important. Tactics are fine in bullet and blitz chess. But a developing Master needs to improve their positional understanding. For this, you should use slower time controls. At your level, several hours of study and classical play will be more helpful than the same amount of time solving puzzles and playing bullet.

If you are training in person with an IM, I suspect that they would give you the same advice.

Good luck with your program.

I personally find studying to be immensely boring and only study to a limited degree. I am doing a training plan that works for my brain since I really can't bring myself to study dry positions all day. I am doing everything 300+ puzzles per day on top of woodpecker with a coach and rapid combined. I definitely have seen a significant jump in my strength from memorizing and seeing all the tactical combos. I get beaten by 2200+ simply because they know more positions then I do. I expect to do 100,000 chess positions by the end of this year which should dramatically catapult my strength. I also need to work on checkmating with knight bishop+ bish+bishop. Their are some significant gaps in opening knowledge but I am really only gonna focus on tactics. That has been my most dramatic improvement in strength. I disagree I find my intense studying in marathon sessions to be superior since I prefer to make progress more rapidly than long spaced out sessions which I find too slow for someone like me. I am aggressive with improvement in general.

EDGE301
mikewier wrote:

I am a retired college professor of psychology. Research on learning theory would argue against your proposed plan if study.

First, it is well known (with research going back to the early 1900s) that massed study is less effective than spaced study. For example, if you have 10 hours to study, it is much more effective to use 10 1-hour blocks than one 10-hour block of time. You will learn more and retain it better if you use spaced practice.

Second, there is limited gain from over practicing already well-learned activities. Your rating is 2000. You should already have learned basic tactics. Working on 200 puzzles a day will largely be a waste of time. If you want to do a few puzzles at the start of a day to warm up, that is understandable. But the rest of your time doing puzzles will have limited benefit.

Third, your goal is the 2200 level. You need to work on the skills that differentiate Masters from Experts. As your playing skill increases, positional play becomes increasingly important. Tactics are fine in bullet and blitz chess. But a developing Master needs to improve their positional understanding. For this, you should use slower time controls. At your level, several hours of study and classical play will be more helpful than the same amount of time solving puzzles and playing bullet.

If you are training in person with an IM, I suspect that they would give you the same advice.

Good luck with your program.

I expect to beat someone of your caliber very consistently in a year or two then I should be ready for the army chess championship once I consistently beat NM's then I'll be ready. I friended you so we can start playing once my strength improves further.

medelpad
It is probably more beneficial to solve fewer puzzles that’s more difficult rather than 200+ easier ones, especially if you wish to improve calculation
EDGE301
medelpad wrote:
It is probably more beneficial to solve fewer puzzles that’s more difficult rather than 200+ easier ones, especially if you wish to improve calculation

You need to reread what I wrote I am doing everything

MaetsNori
mikewier wrote:

Second, there is limited gain from over practicing already well-learned activities. Your rating is 2000. You should already have learned basic tactics. Working on 200 puzzles a day will largely be a waste of time. If you want to do a few puzzles at the start of a day to warm up, that is understandable. But the rest of your time doing puzzles will have limited benefit.

+1

I agree with the decreased necessity for tactics. I almost never work on tactical puzzles. At the advanced level or higher, understanding basic tactics and calculation is no longer an issue - understanding positional ideas is the real challenge.

Once a player has a feel for tactics and know hows to calculate, it's time to move on and start analyzing master-level games that align with their repertoire, to help understand the core ideas. That's where more focus should be, IMO, if one wants to keep climbing.

That, and analyzing your own games.

EDGE301

I am already doing everything and I get the feeling most of yall don't have work ethic or fatigue very easy. Otherwise you would be able to do it. My retention has been super good, master games will not give you sufficient volume for the amount of games necessary to outplay 2200+ players. You need enough exposure to a wide range enough of positions in order to thoroughly demolish them and the simplest way to do that is to improve calculation to it's extreme. Master game analysis might be like 10% improvement I find them somewhat of a waste of time to be honest in terms of raw improvement. Most of capablancas and laskers games are interesting but outdated in terms of the absolute strongest moves to be played. You are likely to get superior results from more rather than less. Just my 2 cent. Tactical motifs are critical but you also need intense repetition to make up for the fact that you are not a kid anymore. I'm like 28 so I don't benefit from insane neuroplasticity anymore.

MaetsNori
EDGE301 wrote:

... Master game analysis might be like 10% improvement I find them somewhat of a waste of time to be honest in terms of raw improvement. Most of capablancas and laskers games are interesting but outdated in terms of the absolute strongest moves to be played. You are likely to get superior results from more rather than less.

I agree with the benefits of repetition - but I'd also say that *what* you are repeating is key.

If you're repeating stuff that's easy or things that you already know, then the benefits will be slim. Studying/training should feel doable but also challenging.

IMO, you should feel capable, but also get tired from it, from the strain it puts on your brain. If your method isn't tiring you out, then it likely isn't pushing you enough to form new ideas.

So the trick is to find things that stretch you past what you already know. Ideally, you should run into things that are difficult to understand - positions that you need to really strain yourself to understand the correct ideas. That's where the most growth will come from, IMO.

Mix it up with some fun games here and there, to keep the joy - so it's not just all work.

And also, master games don't have to be from the distant past. Carlsen and Nakamura are great sources of study, too ...

EDGE301

I do not tire easy because i have a great work ethic I am not talented at all Lol. I think my positional understanding is good it's just the tactics that are lagging behind so I am really gonna cement it down until I can pick up any tactical motif automatically then I expect someone like you to lose to me 70% of the time. I prefer most of capablancas games, fischer, magnus is ok but most of his stuff is way too advanced for me. 300 tactics per day maybe 1 rapid game on top of woodpecker and coach is easy 2200+ imo.

MaetsNori

Well, you sound motivated, so that's awesome. Keep going, it sounds like you've found your groove. Let us know your progress along the way.

Though if you want some additional advice, I'd play at least 2 games a day (one black, one white), at the bare minimum. Give yourself that color balance, so your playing strength equals out with either side ...

EDGE301
MaetsNori wrote:

Well, you sound motivated, so that's awesome. Keep going, it sounds like you've found your groove. Let us know your progress along the way.

Though if you want some additional advice, I'd play at least 2 games a day (one black, one white), at the bare minimum. Give yourself that color balance, so your playing strength equals out with either side ...

Lets see how strong u are bro friend me so we can play best of 100

EDGE301
MaetsNori wrote:

Well, you sound motivated, so that's awesome. Keep going, it sounds like you've found your groove. Let us know your progress along the way.

Though if you want some additional advice, I'd play at least 2 games a day (one black, one white), at the bare minimum. Give yourself that color balance, so your playing strength equals out with either side ...

I'm probably gonna start doing classical soon i do not enjoy rapid that much and their are too many damn stockfish users who play like gods but I am working on my calculation during my rapid games. I am focusing on memorizing the notation and being able to visualize inside my head.

dontprepagainstme
EDGE301 wrote:
MaetsNori wrote:

Well, you sound motivated, so that's awesome. Keep going, it sounds like you've found your groove. Let us know your progress along the way.

Though if you want some additional advice, I'd play at least 2 games a day (one black, one white), at the bare minimum. Give yourself that color balance, so your playing strength equals out with either side ...

I'm probably gonna start doing classical soon i do not enjoy rapid that much and their are too many damn stockfish users who play like gods but I am working on my calculation during my rapid games. I am focusing on memorizing the notation and being able to visualize inside my head.

Honestly if you want to grind classical just go on lichess, there are plenty of legit 1900+ FIDE players there. The Classical pool here is a bit too small. It's good practice for OTB anyways.

EDGE301

Na I'm gonna do it OTB as that is better to see better piece position spatiality I would say that is my general preference and again too many cheaters for me online so I will play less online as time continues hence why I mostly play bullet.

dontprepagainstme
EDGE301 wrote:

Na I'm gonna do it OTB as that is better to see better piece position spatiality I would say that is my general preference and again too many cheaters for me online so I will play less online as time continues hence why I mostly play bullet.

I mean you can play classical OTB, but you're gonna have to play a lot of tournaments and pay a lot of fees to get the same amount of practice as you would online. Personally setting up a physical board to do puzzles or when playing an online game will come close to the real thing.