not everyone can reach 2000

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sirrichardburton wrote:

Very often there will be a post that asks what one has to do to reach a certain chess rating level, often it is above 2000, maybe even a grandmaster. My view is even reaching 2000 is an impossible task for the vast majority of players (myself included). I believe that at this level or above you have to be born with a very good memory (as well as unusual self-discipline). The % of players who reach this level is quite small and its my view that there is good reason for this. Any comments???

 

4 years late to the party (as usual). But I really disagree with this. The reason most players never reach this level is because they don't put in the time to get there. While I certainly feel chess involves way too much memorization these days, most of the game is still built on tactics, position, strategy, etc. Grandmasters dedicate their lives to get to that point. They study hours a day. If anyone put that much effort and time into mastering chess, they could definitely reach 2000 and beyond. To be a super GM and compete at a professional level is a different story.

redscale

Anyone can reach 2000 if they try their best. You just have to work hard.

Elubas

"the point is not to ruin the vibe with unneccesary emotional limitations."

Yeah, I really agree with that. Well put.

Suman3

It seems like everyone here  has a scheme for getting above 2000 rating that will not work... :P

SashaTrebRus
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WalangAlam

It is a threshold that not everyone is willing to put in the effort to achieve it. It is the entry point of having Chess as a profession. Can everyone be a professional Chess player? 

DoctorStrange

This thread is of course, discouraging low rated players.

WalangAlam

On the contrary. We have a saying " If one is willing, there are many ways. If one is not there are many excuses."

thegreat_patzer
Harish73 wrote:

This thread is of course, discouraging low rated players.

why?

I don't understand that.  expert is very, very good.

when your begin any other hobby, do you often begin by assuming that you will be be incredibly good- better than many thousands of enthusiasts? 

DoctorStrange
thegreat_patzer wrote:
Harish73 wrote:

This thread is of course, discouraging low rated players.

why?

I don't understand that.  expert is very, very good.

when your begin any other hobby, do you often begin by assuming that you will be be incredibly good- better than many thousands of enthusiasts? 

"Not everyone can reach 2000"

I said LOW rated players will be discourged not encouraged. An expert is atleast 2100 USCF rated player. 

I don't say I am BEST, there are a trillon of people far better than me.

thegreat_patzer

the OP WAS discouraged. and FWIW lots of persons have disagreed with the OP.

besides if all it takes for you to doubt you most earnest hopes is a Thread on the chess.com forums-

well- what can I say? 

thats not very passionate or determined.   I'm interested in what I read on the forums, but I'm not going to let it discourage me. 

DoctorStrange
thegreat_patzer wrote:

the OP WAS discouraged. and FWIW lots of persons have disagreed with the OP.

besides if all it takes for you to doubt you most earnest hopes is a Thread on the chess.com forums-

well- what can I say? 

thats not very passionate or determined.   I'm interested in what I read on the forums, but I'm not going to let it discourage me. 

+1

SmyslovFan

As a coach, I encourage every student to be the best they can be.

As a player, I have run across many opponents who decided to play chess full time (after retirement, or during a sabbatical, or after high school). Very few of those ever broke 2000.

Of course, people will say they just didn't train right. But the Soviet Union had an excellent training program in place and more than 90% of those players never broke 2000 either.

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SmyslovFan wrote:

As a coach, I encourage every student to be the best they can be.

 

As a player, I have run across many opponents who decided to play chess full time (after retirement, or during a sabbatical, or after high school). Very few of those ever broke 2000.

 

Of course, people will say they just didn't train right. But the Soviet Union had an excellent training program in place and more than 90% of those players never broke 2000 either.

Very reasonable, as usual.

BlunderLots
SmyslovFan wrote:

. . . the Soviet Union had an excellent training program in place and more than 90% of those players never broke 2000 either.

Where did you find this statistic? (Just curious.)

ArgoNavis
BlunderLots escribió:
SmyslovFan wrote:

. . . the Soviet Union had an excellent training program in place and more than 90% of those players never broke 2000 either.

Where did you find this statistic? (Just curious.)

Did you know that 90% of the statistics are invented?

Probably this one too.

Reb

Here is an interesting chart that shows how very few reach 2000 and above : http://archive.uschess.org/ratings/ratedist.php

Its abundantly clear that NOT everyone can reach 2000 .  Surprised

Pulpofeira

They are not called experts for no reason...

SupremeTactician

yeah they are

BlunderLots

IMO, the only real thing separating most 2000+ players from the sub-2000 players, is the 2000+ players have learned things that the lower players have not.

Teach the lower players the same things that the 2000+ players know, and they'll be right there with them. :)