Offering a Draw

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ChazBabylon
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thaynethomas

 Define clearly losing please?

Your Obedient,

Thayne Thomas Keele

 

ponz111
thaynethomas wrote:

 Define clearly losing please?

Your Obedient,

Thayne Thomas Keele

 

If you do not know when you are clearly losing--then best not to offer any draws.

ActuallySleepy
Hmm how about k+r vs k?
ActuallySleepy
Once over my phone, at least a few updates back, I accidentally accepted a draw because it popped up as I was making my move. It was rook and knight pawn vs king.
ChazBabylon
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thaynethomas

sorry just asking I am often told I'm clearly losing then turn it around and win. Sorry to offend.

your obedient

Thayne Thomas Keele

ChazBabylon
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troublen421

look, what has to be done, is that you just can't let a single annoying tactic to prolong your victory chaz. The more it bothers you the more these weirdos, are going to go crazy over a few lost games. Petty. Okay, plus I guess it just depends about how much they annoy you. If they are friendly players, they really have no excuse. The politics of online chess can't fixed. 

ESP-918

Very narrow minded thinking, coming up to a conclusion without even knowing the situation. Not smart , not smart and very childish.

Some people need to go to work, it took longer then expected .

Something happened, wife, children, phone call etc..

He was winning entire game and his wife came , he accidentally make a blunder , so he wants a draw and rematch again.

Many more reasons .....

ChazBabylon
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lfPatriotGames

I have to agree with ESP-918. There are reasons people offer draws other than wanting out of a what some consider a lost position. Sometimes things happen beyond our control and the person just wants the game to not count,for it to be a tie as if it never happened. Also I'm sure most people have seen what I have seen, someone is in a "clearly lost position" find a clever way to stalemate even though the game is horribly lopsided. Thayne also has a great question, define clearly losing. More times than we can count we have seen an opponent in a "clearly lost" position win on time, benefit from the opponent making a huge mistake, draw by repitition, stalemate, etc. All too often clearly lost is not actually clearly lost. Clearly lost is when the score is 1-0 or 0-1. Until then a tie always possible.

ChazBabylon
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lfPatriotGames

I dont know if he was being a pest, but I can understand why some people offer draws. In a game I had today, my opponent had two queens, a bishop, and a king versus my lone king. It was his turn, I was boxed in, and I was facing checkmate in one.  I think this would qualify as what some people call a "clearly losing position". I could have offered a draw several times up to, and including this position, but I didn't. Instead he moved quickly to a square that did not put me in check. Stalemate. And that is exactly why I only offer draws if I have to leave suddenly. A clearly lost position is only identifiable by the score 1-0 or 0-1. My advice is if someone offers you a draw, and you dont like it, block them.

ChazBabylon
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rainwind

I don't get the point of offering a draw, even in equal positions. isn't the point of chess to play a game and win? or if you lose to learn from your mistakes? when you offer or accept a draw it means you are lazy. I never ever accept draws ( unless the position is completely drawn) or resign. Maybe my opponent will be restless. or make a stupid blunder. Who knows?

ChazBabylon
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ChazBabylon
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slowdeath22

they're just humiliating themselves

macer75
ESP-918 wrote:

Very narrow minded thinking, coming up to a conclusion without even knowing the situation. Not smart , not smart and very childish.

 

Some people need to go to work, it took longer then expected .

Something happened, wife, children, phone call etc..

He was winning entire game and his wife came , he accidentally make a blunder , so he wants a draw and rematch again.

Many more reasons .....

So you're saying that he was playing chess while...?