Offering a Draw


Define clearly losing please?
Your Obedient,
Thayne Thomas Keele
If you do not know when you are clearly losing--then best not to offer any draws.


sorry just asking I am often told I'm clearly losing then turn it around and win. Sorry to offend.
your obedient
Thayne Thomas Keele

look, what has to be done, is that you just can't let a single annoying tactic to prolong your victory chaz. The more it bothers you the more these weirdos, are going to go crazy over a few lost games. Petty. Okay, plus I guess it just depends about how much they annoy you. If they are friendly players, they really have no excuse. The politics of online chess can't fixed.

Very narrow minded thinking, coming up to a conclusion without even knowing the situation. Not smart , not smart and very childish.
Some people need to go to work, it took longer then expected .
Something happened, wife, children, phone call etc..
He was winning entire game and his wife came , he accidentally make a blunder , so he wants a draw and rematch again.
Many more reasons .....

I have to agree with ESP-918. There are reasons people offer draws other than wanting out of a what some consider a lost position. Sometimes things happen beyond our control and the person just wants the game to not count,for it to be a tie as if it never happened. Also I'm sure most people have seen what I have seen, someone is in a "clearly lost position" find a clever way to stalemate even though the game is horribly lopsided. Thayne also has a great question, define clearly losing. More times than we can count we have seen an opponent in a "clearly lost" position win on time, benefit from the opponent making a huge mistake, draw by repitition, stalemate, etc. All too often clearly lost is not actually clearly lost. Clearly lost is when the score is 1-0 or 0-1. Until then a tie always possible.

I dont know if he was being a pest, but I can understand why some people offer draws. In a game I had today, my opponent had two queens, a bishop, and a king versus my lone king. It was his turn, I was boxed in, and I was facing checkmate in one. I think this would qualify as what some people call a "clearly losing position". I could have offered a draw several times up to, and including this position, but I didn't. Instead he moved quickly to a square that did not put me in check. Stalemate. And that is exactly why I only offer draws if I have to leave suddenly. A clearly lost position is only identifiable by the score 1-0 or 0-1. My advice is if someone offers you a draw, and you dont like it, block them.

I don't get the point of offering a draw, even in equal positions. isn't the point of chess to play a game and win? or if you lose to learn from your mistakes? when you offer or accept a draw it means you are lazy. I never ever accept draws ( unless the position is completely drawn) or resign. Maybe my opponent will be restless. or make a stupid blunder. Who knows?

Very narrow minded thinking, coming up to a conclusion without even knowing the situation. Not smart , not smart and very childish.
Some people need to go to work, it took longer then expected .
Something happened, wife, children, phone call etc..
He was winning entire game and his wife came , he accidentally make a blunder , so he wants a draw and rematch again.
Many more reasons .....
So you're saying that he was playing chess while...?