openly gay chess masters?

He's a well respected man about town, doing the best things most conservatively.

(The Kinks)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq5WmHBSVa0

I think we are discussing an important point possibly a very very important point that has to be taken up to the highest level.

Chess is at one point which brings an adult and a child in close contact. ( as players and also as a coach and guide. ) In england all who come in close contact with the children professinally has to undergo police vetting. I do not know about the US.

In india I came across a story where a chess teaher ( may not be rated ) was arrested. ( the reason is implied in the contest )

Post 15 is amazing.

Burke, are you insinuating Tal was gay?

To DrSpudnik: I am a conservative and I think homosexuality is an abomination because it disregards that family (man, woman, children) are the core of society, therefore if someone wants special rights to emulate that which is unnatural, the desemination of society will eventually follow through if the majority remain silent.

Only 3% of the entire population are that way. If they want to exercise their right to have unnatural sex, be it. I don't care, but I don't let anyone tell me that I dont have the right to think differntly or have an opinion on the matter.

Although a family is sort of a micro community/society I'd say the core of society would be something more along the lines of empathy, morality, or respect or something like this.  I think that's kind of obvious... you're not related to most people in a society and society isn't held together by families.

By "desemination" I guess you're trying to say decimation.  Society itself is an organic thing... it may be enhanced by laws and traditions, but it doesn't fail when these things change.  In fact it's easy to see this in other cultures, both the ones that exist today and in history, which don't share the same laws, beliefs, and traditions.

Anyway it comes off as a lot of loose association of concepts instead of a complete logical thought e.g. family reminds me of society, homosexuals can't have kids, therefore homosexuals are anti society.

Well, I didn't find even one player of the "Sodom-Gomorrah Gambit" in the masters games database if that helps answer the question. 

Your intellectual understanding of a behavior that decimates the moral fabric of a stable society cannot evolve or change just because 3% of the people want to extend their choice-behavior to accomodate theirs.

97% of society are straight, and even though marriage is not what is supposed to be since we have have ejected the creator and replaced Him with our humanistic understanding, it is still the only think we can go by.

Morality is a fixed thing and must remain as absolute as the law of gravity. When we begin to question the wisdom of it, we will sooner or later fall headlong into the abyss of "new laws" that will last until we hit the bottom and break every bone we have. 

However, the initial converation was about a "gay" chess player, my question would be as to why do we have the need to bring this subject up? What difference does it make if someone who has some sort of deviant behavior behind his intelligent self plays good chess?

I personally don't care if I have to work alongside a homosexual or a straight person. The problem begins when my morality is put into question, or my opinion is regarded as "bigotry", "hate", etc.

Anyway... I don't think we should take this thing any further. If you like, you can have the last word.

What's wrong with calling a spade a spade? Bigotry is bigotry.

You heard me. "Special rights" as to marry another individual of the same sex. That's special. It is special when they have rights that normal people don't. I know that for a fact. A homosexual can say he lives with "his partner" and receive medical benefits, while a couple that live together don't.

They not only demand tolerance, but also acceptance. Once they have both, they will have dominance.

Nobody is born homosexual, there is no homosexual gene. It is a choice which gives the person a perverted way of life. Now these "people" have perverted the word "Gay". Well the few that I know are anything but. In the good old-fashioned meaning of the word.

Well, I mean let's be honest then... is it?  It seems like you're saying just because it's an opinion means it's not bigotry or hate.  If you call people an abomination whose existence destroys society in a calm voice that doesn't change anything.  In fact most people who hate others could calmly tell you why they think all _____ are sub-human or are better off dead.

It's also a bit ironic that a person like this, in the same breath, talks about the integrity of society which is surely more about seeing people as people.

I know right?  I remember when I was 13 and I thought sex with anything or anyone was fine... then one day I finally made my decision to only like women.  I think everyone has a similar story.

lol

"... or be locked"

Soon I think.

in b4 the lock

Same.

The word 'gay' brought me here....

I was curious :(

Chess, and sex don't really go together; I imagine most chess masters are rather asexual.

i don't know, because sadly, most masters are Russian, and in Russia they have the doubtful merit of being one of few countries in which tolerance towards gay people has decreased, so maybe there are some problems to be openly gay.