Optimal rapid time control?

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Ziryab
AunTheKnight wrote:
ninjaswat wrote:

Though for my next tournament I may be playing with FIDE rules, any major changes from USCF rules? (I've played OTB before and know most of the normal rules, i.e. touch move, etc.)

Bishop + K vs K is a win if the opponent without the bishop times out because of helpmate.

 

Show me the final position.

Chuck639
Ziryab wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
ninjaswat wrote:

Though for my next tournament I may be playing with FIDE rules, any major changes from USCF rules? (I've played OTB before and know most of the normal rules, i.e. touch move, etc.)

Bishop + K vs K is a win if the opponent without the bishop times out because of helpmate.

 

Show me the final position.

How do you mate with one bishop and king?

AunTheKnight
Chuck639 wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
ninjaswat wrote:

Though for my next tournament I may be playing with FIDE rules, any major changes from USCF rules? (I've played OTB before and know most of the normal rules, i.e. touch move, etc.)

Bishop + K vs K is a win if the opponent without the bishop times out because of helpmate.

 

Show me the final position.

How do you mate with one bishop and king?

I believe FIDE rules say that if a helpmate is possible, it’s the win for the side who has the bishop, I think. I am most likely wrong, though. Let me check. 

 

EDIT: I am wrong. 

Ziryab

K+B  vs K+N helpmate is possible.

 

 

Chuck639
Ziryab wrote:

K+B  vs K+N helpmate is possible.

 

 

You guys crack me up lol. I cannot mate with a king and bishop pair or king and pair of knights or king with a bishop and knight.

I just accept and always thought a king and one bishop or one knight against a lone king is a draw/insufficient material. 

There is no way I am making training time on this haha.

Interesting FIDE rule.

 

AunTheKnight
Chuck639 wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

K+B  vs K+N helpmate is possible.

 

 

You guys crack me up lol. I cannot mate with a king and bishop pair or king and pair of knights or king with a bishop and knight.

I just accept and always thought a king and one bishop or one knight against a lone king is a draw/insufficient material. 

There is no way I am making training time on this haha.

Interesting FIDE rule.

 

Yeah, it's a helpmate. It is only possible if the opponent plays the worst defence.

Ziryab
Chuck639 wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

K+B  vs K+N helpmate is possible.

 

 

You guys crack me up lol. I cannot mate with a king and bishop pair or king and pair of knights or king with a bishop and knight.

I just accept and always thought a king and one bishop or one knight against a lone king is a draw/insufficient material. 

There is no way I am making training time on this haha.

Interesting FIDE rule.

 

 

Bishop pair is easy. Bishop and knight can be learned. Two knights cannot force checkmate, but a helpmate is possible. A single minor piece against a lone king is insufficient material. But a single minor piece against a king and rook pawn makes the helpmate easy.

UnderTactics

10+0 is good if you want to play multiple games. 30+0 is good for a long game and calculating tactics

I don't tend to play with increment, though 15+10 games can be nice. 

kartikeya_tiwari
CooloutAC wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:

Classical is just practice for blitz for me.

 

Nothing wrong with that.

Nothing, that is, unless you are ambitious to improve rapidly. If you have such ambitions, too much blitz will flatten your learning curve.

 

You are contradicting yourself yet again.  Either I improve slowly or I don't improve at all.  which is it?    I think you have to admit its the former, otherwise you'd be dishonest.   Classical is no different then doing puzzles or practice excercises for me.  no different then reading a book.   But different then blitz in the sense its easier and less stressful when I want a game against an opponent.  That kid was taught by people like you that classical is more serious,  and if his aspirations are to play in FIDE OTB tournaments,  well then he has no choice and he knows this.

I don't know if u are trolling or serious but assuming u are serious, i would say that classical is called "serious" chess since you have to stay focused for the most of the game. Blitz plays much more on opening preparation and "feel" of the player. 

For example, go look my most recent draw, my opponent destroyed me in the opening since he knew it and i didn't but i had time to think so i tried to play a few tricky moves and was winning at one point, however a hasty NxP cost me the win.

If it was blitz this would never have happened. In blitz the better prepared player wins and often blunders happen in packs. In classical blunders are not common so you have to stay focused for the whole game since one mistake can cost you the whole game.


Ziryab

@ChesswithNickolay

I think knowledge and skill make a huge difference in how one approaches slow chess. Until one learns about color complexes, outposts, prophylaxis, blockade, ..., there is not much to think about beyond if I take, they take, ... 

tygxc

Classical is most difficult and most exhausting to play. You have to maintain high concentration for hours.
Blitz is for fun.

AunTheKnight
CooloutAC wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:

No, classical and rapid aren't easier than blitz. You have to spend tons of energy and brain power often on a single move in classical when in blitz, it doesn't even matter if you play a horrible opening or make thousands of mistakes and blunders.

They absolutely are easier.  I don't have to spend any energy at all I can take forever to think of a move lol.  You literally can be mentally slow thinking in the head and play classical.  

That is why you are 400 in rapid. 

Shaikidow
nklristic wrote:
Shaikidow wrote:

I haven't seen this get discussed about enough at all! I understand that everyone's natural playing tempo can and does change due to various circumstances, but I feel a need to pick an exact time control and stick to it.

I'd like it to be a time control that a) gets used in online tournaments the most, and b) uses a time increment greater than 0. The only rapid preset available both here and on Lichess seems to be 15 | 10, so I guess I should go with that, but 25 | 10 seems to see the most usage at top-level rapid tournaments... unless that has changed in the last couple of years?

Really wanna hear your opinion on this.

15|10 je najblize onome sto zelis da postignes. Ja licno vise volim duze partije, ali recimo 45|45 ne mogu da svrstam u polubrzopoteznu partiju.

Mozes naravno i da sam podesis vreme, ali 15|10 je verovatno najbolje i relativno ces brzo naci partiju, jer ima ljudi sa rejtingom preko 2000 da igraju 15|10.

Tako nekako sam i mislio, hvala!

Also, me casually returning to this topic after a few days and finding out it received upwards of 100 replies:

nklristic
Shaikidow wrote:
nklristic wrote:
Shaikidow wrote:

I haven't seen this get discussed about enough at all! I understand that everyone's natural playing tempo can and does change due to various circumstances, but I feel a need to pick an exact time control and stick to it.

I'd like it to be a time control that a) gets used in online tournaments the most, and b) uses a time increment greater than 0. The only rapid preset available both here and on Lichess seems to be 15 | 10, so I guess I should go with that, but 25 | 10 seems to see the most usage at top-level rapid tournaments... unless that has changed in the last couple of years?

Really wanna hear your opinion on this.

15|10 je najblize onome sto zelis da postignes. Ja licno vise volim duze partije, ali recimo 45|45 ne mogu da svrstam u polubrzopoteznu partiju.

Mozes naravno i da sam podesis vreme, ali 15|10 je verovatno najbolje i relativno ces brzo naci partiju, jer ima ljudi sa rejtingom preko 2000 da igraju 15|10.

Tako nekako sam i mislio, hvala!

Also, me casually returning to this topic after a few days and finding out it received upwards of 100 replies:

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daxypoo
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jimbalter
ricorat wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:

I personally play mostly 5+0. On occassion I play 30+0 when I just want to relax, usually watching tv at the same time, but I simply don't have the patience for it otherwise. I find the competition is much easier with rapid though. 600 rated players feel like 300 rated blitz players.

Interesting. I normally feel like the rapid playing pool is stronger as in blitz I’ve beaten 2100’s but in rapid I have a harder time against stronger opponents. Although I guess it depends on the person.

Um, the faster the game the more likely it is for someone to miscalculate or blunder so of course your chances of beating stronger players are better at faster controls ... it has nothing to do with the strength of the pool, just the fact that the overall quality of play at faster controls is of logical necessity lower.

jimbalter
Ziryab wrote:

K+B vs K+N helpmate is possible.

Duh. So what?

Ziryab
jimbalter wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

K+B vs K+N helpmate is possible.

Duh. So what?

Makes a difference in the rules. Is checkmate possible through any series of legal moves?

FIDE rules: