Outrageous - Chess.com is Running an Engine on our iPads While We play

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JustOneUSer
If they did this, they would tell us.

Because then we would know FOR SURE that we would be caught if cheating.

Otherwise people don't- so some immature people cheat.

They wouldn't if they knew they would be caught.

The logic of your arguments is...

Non existent.
JustOneUSer
Now I can. But on my old I couldn't.

Playing chess, online, agaisnt another person, and then analysing that, along with chess.com doing things in the background- news, videos, massage sent to you- is A LOT of work.

I doubt they have "hacked" your device.
JustOneUSer
You have a premintion-

Your iPad heats up a bit when playing live chess (is this the FIRST game, or games after?) and you make about 5 estimations to get to your comclusion
JustOneUSer
Also.

On watching YouTube.

When doing that, the iPad realeases energy through sound, and so wouldn't heat up as much when not using intense sound. (I.E playing chess.)

But playing chess is significantly more stressful for the tablet then other wifi-non sound activities, I.e googling cat pictures.
o_KingKull_o
Not claiming "my" device is hacked. Speculating that it's a standard behavior of the app. I could be wrong, and I admit that. It'd be nice to have a statement from the company though.
oregonpatzer

My toaster is heating up!  Chess.com must be running an engine on it to detect cheating!

JustOneUSer
You have had a statment. McGleason.
Harmbtn
o_KingKull_o wrote:
While I can't prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt

 

You haven't even provided a shadow of proof. 

 

oregonpatzer

More seriously, there is no reason whatsoever why chess.com would run an engine on your iPad in real time.  It's got all your moves archived anyway and it can review them at leisure.  You just aren't that important to be spied on every second during chess.

o_KingKull_o
The best way to get an assertion disproven, these days, is to make the assertion loudly and watch the refutations pour in. My question wouldn't have gotten an answer from the site admins - they're too busy with other matters.
JustOneUSer
Fair enough.

But you did from the cheating guy....
Pyotrvich
o_KingKull_o wrote:
And I'd love to know how MGleason knows that an engine is not being run to do live analysis on my device.

 

You claim that it is, so it's on you to prove it. 

 

o_KingKull_o wrote:
I don't have to prove it. I'm the customer. 

 

Basic logic doesn't apply because you're a customer?

 

o_KingKull_o wrote:
Also, give me credit for figuring out how chess.com does its live chess pairings.

 

What exactly did you figure out? 

If you play poorly, you are paired with a lower rated player, whereas if you play well you are paired with a higher rated player, more times than not

That's how ratings work. If you score well you get paired with stronger opposition. Hardly deserving of any credit.

 

o_KingKull_o wrote:
It'd be nice to have a statement from the company though.

 

If chess.com had to respond to every unfounded claim made on the forums they would need to hire a hundred people to work full time.

superdrewe53

Oh for gods sake, anything that requires energy produces heat, its basic science

MGleason
o_KingKull_o wrote:
And I'd love to know how MGleason knows that an engine is not being run to do live analysis on my device. Btw, the device also gets hot when you do post game analysis. Coincidence?

I watch the processes running on my device.  No engine shows up while I'm playing, and the web browser doesn't suddenly start eating CPU while I'm playing.

Additionally, running an engine on various devices, many of them with fairly slow processors, would be a pretty inefficient method of cheat detection.

Brendan_UK

Outrageous, unfounded & untrue, get your facts right kid.

JustOneUSer
Savage.
Lagomorph
superdrewe53 wrote:

Oh for gods sake, anything that requires energy produces heat, its basic science

 

...and this thread is certainly producing a lot of hot air !

EndgameEnthusiast2357

Chess.com does this. They track every game with an advanced multi-step algorithm

hairhorn
"Local resident shocked that chess app uses CPU time"
EscherehcsE
hairhorn wrote:
"Local resident shocked that chess app uses CPU time"

Maybe Erik is mining for Bitcoins. Laughing