Parameter settings for fritz for analysis

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Chregg

just wondering what parameter settings people on here use for fritz for analysis, i.e 10 seconds with a threshold of 300 etc ???

NimzoRoy

I'm using F12 and have found that even as little as 5 min/entire game uncovers lots of stuff both me and my occasionally hapless opponents totally missed or didn't consider important.

Analyze the same game over and over again with different TLs for starters to see if that makes any difference, or with the same TL and different threshold etc.

You can also load lots of free engines into Fritz inc Firebird, Houdini, Stockfish and Critter and compare their results as well.

Looks like you've got a lot of work ahead!Tongue Out

Chregg

cheers for that, im still running fritz 10 !! gonna have to get deep fritz 13, make use of my 4 processors, i want to go through all my games on here bar the bullet, cuz theres so many blunders, and winning and loosing on time, i dont think they are worth the hassle of analysing, but then again maybe they are, cheers again

NimzoRoy

If money's no object go ahead & upgrade, otherwise I'm sorry I spent $ on F12 because F10 was good enuff for me as I know realize with my amazing super-power: hindsight!

I'd highly recommend doing your own analysis at least occasionally, I only play turn-based as a rule and just annotate my games in progress (NOT using anything besides the software between my ears!)  ie what I plan to do each move and in the future IF I can predict my opponents moves.

Chregg

i usually do go through my own games, but i want to start using computers as well to see if they can come out with something different, i know not to take fritz to seriously as basing all analysis on wat it sais, but its good as a reference point, maybe generate some novelties, you know, im actually anaysisng some turn based games as we speak, set fritz to 300 secs and a threshold of 600 see wat that sais

NimzoRoy

I think you'll be pleased with Fritz's analysis at least to some extent. What I don't like about it is it often makes no comments when I'm += or =+ and then starts commenting again after I've slid down (or sunk) to a really bad position that basically can no longer be salvaged. BUT I'm sure you'll still discover a lot more with Fritz than you would on your own I almost always have

GOOD LUCK!

loudonv

Hi Chris!  I'm interested to read  your comments on Fritz, which I was thinking of getting - do you reckon it helps you improve your play?  I've been having some success with the King's Gambit, but getting myself into trouble on certain replies from my opponents, so would be good to understand where I'm going wrong.  Cheers, Paul

Chregg

im trying to get into the swing of assisted analysis with it, as in looking at skeptical opening lines and let fritz (along with me pushing it in a certain direction) see if say a minor piece sac in the opening has any long term advantages, its a very sophisticated app, and for using it for your own learning its brilliant, as in playing set openings, end games (you can make your own databases for that as well) and it can be set to play more or less at most peoples standard of play, i recommend it strongly, and if you have a multi core cpu, go for a deep version, some people mightt tell you other wise, but most apps i use (multi media) are all written for multi core cpu's, and you want to take advantage of that

Chregg

but it will defo aid you in analysis, the blunder check feature is the business, it will defo open your eyes up to where you are going wrong, as graham burgess said "using your pattern recognition and the computers tactical powers can lead to a lot"

loudonv

Thanks, Chris - I have now downloaded DeepFritz12 and am about to have a go at it ...  thanks for your comments, which are very helpful.  With my chess, I do quite well for a while, then keep making stupid mistakes which seem obvious only after I've made them...

mldavis617

I use Fritz 13 to input my games with the engine turned off to obtain a record of moves to store.  Going back over the game, I set up a regular board and pieces and use Fritz to replay the game.  At each position I want to analyze, I turn the engine on with "Infinite Analysis" and let it run while I'm over the board and my back to the computer.  When I think I've seen everything on the board, I turn around, pause Fritz and compare results.  I find it better to ignore the engine until I've done the real work of trying to find the "best" move on my own.  The engine for me is a blunder check and an idea machine.

I like Fritz for it's ability to read all popular formats, and to add other engines such as Stockfish, Rybka and Houdini.  I haven't found (yet) any limitations, although I wish there was a setting to turn the engine off by default rather than having to do so before each new game is entered.

Chregg

"I find it better to ignore the engine until I've done the real work of trying to find the "best" move on my own." thats exactly my point, joint analysis !!!

Mandy711
Chregg wrote:

cheers for that, im still running fritz 10 !! gonna have to get deep fritz 13, make use of my 4 processors, i want to go through all my games on here bar the bullet, cuz theres so many blunders, and winning and loosing on time, i dont think they are worth the hassle of analysing, but then again maybe they are, cheers again

Download Houdini 1.5, Critter 1.6 or Stockfish 2.3.1 free. They are multiprocessor engines and stronger than Deep Fritz 13. Fritz 10 chess GUI is fine. Install them as UCI engines.

Chregg

@mandy wicked cheers for that downloading houdini now, good man !

Mandy711

@mldavis617 

If you want yo input your game from chess.com, just get pgn and copy it.   To paste it to Fritz, click edit, paste then paste game.

 

Chregg

i usualy just open the pgn in fritz