Planning on dedicating a month to improving in chess, How far do you think I'll get?

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Mpirani
DetonatorDave wrote:

It’s an interesting project. I’ll be following with interest. You can of course overwork it so stay fresh!

When are you starting?

Just finishing up some stuff that I need to get done, but basically today. I have no obligations for all of August. I will definitely be keeping you guys up to date on progress

SpitWadWilly

What works for you will probably be some unique combination of studying, solving puzzles, and playing games.

I was stuck at 800 for a while, because I just kept playing games and doing nothing else. Then I started watching beginner YouTube videos and I went up to 1200. Then I started solving puzzles and I went up to 1400. I really just wanted to play games, so it was hard to do the other activities that made me better. I had to discipline myself by saying things like, "No more games until I watch 3 videos." What works for you will probably be unique to you.

Make a general plan, but don't be afraid to change that plan when you find out what is helping you most. I think that once your rating goes up, you will be happier and you won't be fixated on "1200 in one month", you will re-fixate on just improving and seeing results.

P.S. I got suck in the 1400s for a long time and right now I'm currently stuck in the 1600s.

Mpirani
SpitWadWilly wrote:

What works for you will probably be some unique combination of studying, solving puzzles, and playing games.

I was stuck at 800 for a while, because I just kept playing games and doing nothing else. Then I started watching beginner YouTube videos and I went up to 1200. Then I started solving puzzles and I went up to 1400. I really just wanted to play games, so it was hard to do the other activities that made me better. I had to discipline myself by saying things like, "No more games until I watch 3 videos." What works for you will probably be unique to you.

Make a general plan, but don't be afraid to change that plan when you find out what is helping you most. I think that once your rating goes up, you will be happier and you won't be fixated on "1200 in one month", you will re-fixate on just improving and seeing results.

P.S. I got suck in the 1400s for a long time and right now I'm currently stuck in the 1600s.

Yep! To be honest I actually enjoy studying and analyzing more than playing games for the most part, and I feel like this will largely help me

BestSell
Mpirani wrote:

The goal for me to be honest is to lose as few games as possible, which will guarantee that I'm improving between games

That's not a goal of improving -- that's a goal of winning.

Improving tends to involve losing. Losing leads to learning.

If you're only winning games, then you're going to remain unaware of many of your weaknesses.

Generally speaking, the strongest players have gotten that way by losing a staggering amount of games . . . and learning from each loss along the way.

llama47

Yeah, in one sense the goal of losing as little as possible is the wrong focus. It might cause you to seek opponents, time controls, openings etc that are not very instructive.

But taken in a certain way, losing as little as possible could be the best mindset if it means you're trying your best in every game and tailoring your lessons to try and improve your weakest areas.

KingSideInvasion

Don't worry about these questions. Just do everything you can do to improve.

IMKeto
Mpirani wrote:
SPickwick wrote:
Koridai wrote:
Mpirani wrote:
Koridai wrote:

In a month from elo 800 in rapid? It depends on how much time you have, if you got like 14 hours per day, getting to 1200 rating should be doable. My advice is to watch chessbrah BUILDING HABITS, incorporate the habits in your play according to your rating,  that, and also do puzzles on chesstempo.com I would do 50/50. So for 14 hours that would be 7 hours of puzzles and 7 hours of rapid chess.

 

Why not puzzles on chess.com? I already have a membership here

I didn't know that you had a membership here, chess puzzles here are better, because you have the same board layout as in your games. Chesstempo.com only helps you to not get too proud of yourself, because rating is not dished out as quickly.

The rating is not the point. That is important to remember.

 

Yep, the goal is definitely to improve rather than just increase rating. The goal for me to be honest is to lose as few games as possible, which will guarantee that I'm improving between games

That's not an improvement goal.  That's a playing it safe goal.  And you wont improve with that mindset.

KingSideInvasion
llama47 escribió:

Yeah, in one sense the goal of losing as little as possible is the wrong focus. It might cause you to seek opponents, time controls, openings etc that are not very instructive.

But taken in a certain way, losing as little as possible could be the best mindset if it means you're trying your best in every game and tailoring your lessons to try and improve your weakest areas.

Agreed. Play things that will target your weaknesses (and as a result may not give you the best chance at winning), but at the time of the game try your hardest to win. 

ChampoftheBepoCamp

Bah I went from 1000+ to 1300ish in rapid in like 10 days... but I stayed there for a while though... and titled 100 points the next day after lol... then back up again 

llama47
Foolsmateinfinity wrote:

Bah I went from 1000+ to 1300ish in rapid in like 2 weeks... but I stayed there for a while though... 

We have to assume the OP's rating is stable and correct, otherwise the exercise is pointless.

No one gains 200 points worth of skill in a week.

IMKeto
llama47 wrote:
Foolsmateinfinity wrote:

Bah I went from 1000+ to 1300ish in rapid in like 2 weeks... but I stayed there for a while though... 

We have to assume the OP's rating is stable and correct, otherwise the exercise is pointless.

No one gains 200 points worth of skill in a week.

You do online :-)

ChampoftheBepoCamp

You can do it if you pray to the Flying Spaghetti Monster... I was stuck in 1300s blitz for weeks tilting from 1400... but after I prayed I got to a all time high of 1447 and rapid above 1500...

I give glory and thanks to the great one

Mpirani
BestSell wrote:
Mpirani wrote:

The goal for me to be honest is to lose as few games as possible, which will guarantee that I'm improving between games

That's not a goal of improving -- that's a goal of winning.

Improving tends to involve losing. Losing leads to learning.

If you're only winning games, then you're going to remain unaware of many of your weaknesses.

Generally speaking, the strongest players have gotten that way by losing a staggering amount of games . . . and learning from each loss along the way.

I probably phrased it wrongly, but I feel like my point is I like playing less games, and spending more time analyzing them than playing a lot of games.

Mpirani
IMBacon wrote:
Mpirani wrote:
SPickwick wrote:
Koridai wrote:
Mpirani wrote:
Koridai wrote:

In a month from elo 800 in rapid? It depends on how much time you have, if you got like 14 hours per day, getting to 1200 rating should be doable. My advice is to watch chessbrah BUILDING HABITS, incorporate the habits in your play according to your rating,  that, and also do puzzles on chesstempo.com I would do 50/50. So for 14 hours that would be 7 hours of puzzles and 7 hours of rapid chess.

 

Why not puzzles on chess.com? I already have a membership here

I didn't know that you had a membership here, chess puzzles here are better, because you have the same board layout as in your games. Chesstempo.com only helps you to not get too proud of yourself, because rating is not dished out as quickly.

The rating is not the point. That is important to remember.

 

Yep, the goal is definitely to improve rather than just increase rating. The goal for me to be honest is to lose as few games as possible, which will guarantee that I'm improving between games

That's not an improvement goal.  That's a playing it safe goal.  And you wont improve with that mindset.

I guess it was a bit misunderstood but the main thing I want to strive for is rather than playing a lot of games I want to spend time analyzing games as well as learning endgame theory (and probably a bit of opening theory as well)

PerpetuallyPinned

Everything is relative. What relationship does improving have with a month, within your realm of chess?

We have big general understanding that improvements include getting better at achieving something. But what is that (for you)? How do you measure it and why use those criteria? What's the plan to achieve milestones along the way, ensuring you're on the right track? And what if you stray away a little?

If everything (for you) revolves around a rating increase, then that's answer...just win. But (as mentioned by others) this might not be a shared opinion of "improvement".

The first step to improvement is to start doing the right things. What are you doing now? Why? How do you intend to change that? Which things will take priority and which will come next?

But why a month? What long term plan does this short term limit support? Why only 1 month? Is 1 month too long?

How much time (daily total) do you have to spend on this? Whether you can or can't do anything, you're probably right.

For everything you do, ask these questions:

1-What am I doing? (What's my process of doing the right things?)

2-Why am I doing it now? (Is it both... a requirement and the topmost priority to do things right?)

Blah, blah, blah...all of that aside...

Work on your tactics (motifs one by one not random puzzles).

Play a few (if you have enough time) 30 minute games (shortest time control) or longer each day. I'll suggest a daily game (avoid the 3 days per move type). Don't rapid your daily games and don't blitz/bullet your rapid games...you see it all the time.

Annotate your games immediately afterwards. Analyze yourself and then try to get opinions of much stronger players. Identify important concepts (you might not know they exist yet).

Work on beginner endgames and simple repertoire (a few opening moves).

Learn to embrace losing. You generally have more opportunities to learn from loses than from wins. Learning is improving.

Try to play much stronger players as often as possible (but not always). You should lose, therefore learn something from nearly every game.

Don't be disappointed if a month doesn't produce big results.

IMKeto
Mpirani wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
Mpirani wrote:
SPickwick wrote:
Koridai wrote:
Mpirani wrote:
Koridai wrote:

In a month from elo 800 in rapid? It depends on how much time you have, if you got like 14 hours per day, getting to 1200 rating should be doable. My advice is to watch chessbrah BUILDING HABITS, incorporate the habits in your play according to your rating,  that, and also do puzzles on chesstempo.com I would do 50/50. So for 14 hours that would be 7 hours of puzzles and 7 hours of rapid chess.

 

Why not puzzles on chess.com? I already have a membership here

I didn't know that you had a membership here, chess puzzles here are better, because you have the same board layout as in your games. Chesstempo.com only helps you to not get too proud of yourself, because rating is not dished out as quickly.

The rating is not the point. That is important to remember.

 

Yep, the goal is definitely to improve rather than just increase rating. The goal for me to be honest is to lose as few games as possible, which will guarantee that I'm improving between games

That's not an improvement goal.  That's a playing it safe goal.  And you wont improve with that mindset.

I guess it was a bit misunderstood but the main thing I want to strive for is rather than playing a lot of games I want to spend time analyzing games as well as learning endgame theory (and probably a bit of opening theory as well)

Those are all good measurable goals.  But I have to ask the obvious.  What do you meany by "improve"?  I ask this because improvement means different things to different people. 

Chuck639

Don’t do what I did in my first two months of chess which was just play a lot. I quickly shot up from 500 to 1280 but it only got me so far.

Now I am still making up for lost time and also stripping poor habits that I picked up. 

6 months after rehauling my game, I appreciate absorbing the material, steady improvement and growing in all areas of chess.

I was curious to see where my game was at and jumped into the arenas on this site and playing pool on another site; I was pleasant to be competitive at the 1600 level.

Basically in hindsight, go with the long term plan.

marqumax
Aim for 1500 don’t listen to them
llama47
marqumax wrote:
Aim for 1500 don’t listen to them

1500 lichess classical, which is like, IDK, 500 chess.com blitz, sure, he can aim for that tongue.png

IMKeto

1500 lichess is below beginner.