playing the sicilian (it kinda worked)

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zeeeenith

so I was watching gothamchess yesterday, and he was talking about what 4 openings you should not play. One of them was the Najdorf sicilian which goes like this

I'm not going to go into detail why he said not to play the Najdorf, but he did say that if you're going to play the sicilian, play either the Dragon of the Kan sicilian. I was curious about the Kan so I looked into it a bit

so after one day of learning it, I decided, 'you know what i'm just gonna go for it and play it in a game'. and sure enough I got it on my first game. well sort of lol

and after I declined his rematch, he sends me a chat message saying lol of course you don't accept the rematch. not really trash talking in my books lol

but yeah that's about it and btw i'm just learning this for fun my main opening against e4 is c6

 

hypercard

Sicilian is good. I play it.

EvidentRoad

He is only saying not to play Najdorf for lower levels. Once you get like 1600 Najdorf is really strong. It just takes a ton of memorization

zeeeenith
chessknight222 wrote:

He is only saying not to play Najdorf for lower levels. Once you get like 1600 Najdorf is really strong. It just takes a ton of memorization

yeah that's what I meant

and also I quit playing the sicilian because it requires so much theory the caro is way easier to learn

hypercard

I disagree. Najdorf really sucks why memorize a bunch of stuff just play like Sveshnikov, that's just my opinion.

zeeeenith
hypercard wrote:

I disagree. Najdorf really sucks why memorize a bunch of stuff just play like Sveshnikov, that's just my opinion.

well tbh there is a significant rating difference between us so i'm pretty sure people at my level would be playing some offbeat stuff

halfalfa

In the Najdorf, black should play 4...Nf6, white usually defends the e-pawn with 5.Nc3, and then 5...a6. This avoids the Maroczy Bind white likes to play with 5.c4. Also notice that black's earlier ...d6 prepared ...Nf6 because it stopped white from playing 5.e5.

Edit: My move numbers were wrong. They're fixed now.

EvidentRoad

I like the najdorf but i am personally a Classical sicilian player. but i would play the Najdorf as well.

blueemu

The Najdorf is fun to play. It's not for the faint of heart, though. The Najdorf is an opening suitable for knuckle-dragging, hairy-backed MEN, not for dilettantes.

A Heroic Defense in the Sicilian Najdorf - Kids, don't try this at home! - Chess Forums - Chess.com

zeeeenith
blueemu wrote:

The Najdorf is fun to play. It's not for the faint of heart, though. The Najdorf is an opening suitable for knuckle-dragging, hairy-backed MEN, not for dilettantes.

A Heroic Defense in the Sicilian Najdorf - Kids, don't try this at home! - Chess Forums - Chess.com

er.. ok then . _.

zeeeenith
Optimissed wrote:


Hi in the first diagram, the main line is not 5. Nc3.  White tends to want to avoid playing Nc3 for the time being and will often play 5. Bd3.

Against 3. c3 in that first game, I would play 3. ...d5 and I have the choice of whether to recapture with the pawn or the queen. I would prefer with the Q. On move 7 after c4, Ndb4 looks really interesting for black. He has to move the queen and then you play pawn takes on d4. Looks better for black.

He's right about the Najdorf. It's way, way too difficult even for an intermediate player, let alone a relative beginner.

yeah I put Nc3 in the diagram because it looked like a more natural move to me than Bd3. Both work out fine in my opinion 

and i'm also confused myself why I didn't play Nbd4 there

TheUltraTrap

Gotham: but no one is gonna play like that

Me: They play like that bc I'm higher rated

Gotham: Gets a dead lost position against an 1800 sub that he got lucky on and didnt lose

Me: Already knew that line long before from learning it the hard way

Gotham: This is my homework, Qg8 wow, I gotta add this to my course

Me: I dont need your course, I have analyzed a ton of lines with stockfish already on my lichess study

Gotham: dont play the Najdorf, dont play queen's gambit, dont play English

Me: Plays them all tongue.png

zeeeenith

lol

zeeeenith

he said don't play qga as black

halfalfa

Optimissed, you mean the second diagram?

This is the Najdorf, with 4...Nf6 5. Nc3 a6:

https://www.chess.com/openings/Sicilian-Defense-Open-Najdorf-Variation

TheUltraTrap
Zenith0516 wrote:

he said don't play qga as black

yep but also not recommended d4d5 for black at all

TheUltraTrap

Gotham: Roasts me on stream

Me: next time I chat I just act like nothing has happened

Ziryab

I think Gotham says stupid things just to arouse controversy.

TheUltraTrap

no hes an amazing youtuber he just is more focused on begninners bc 95% of his audience is U1700 so his tips apply mainly to low elo

Gump_forest

kan is annoying to face...so i would reccomend u look into it ...its interesting

 

i play the dragon personally ..i have anish giri s course on it