e4 vs d4

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E4 vs D4
Clockwork_Nemesis
Both
Clockwork_Nemesis
Like literally, both (Scotch game)
Abtectous
Nf3.
Chickenfarmer2009

c4 bro but e4 is probably the best out of those two, but it comes with a lot of strings. When you play e4, black can go for the Sicilian, Caro-Kann, French Defense, Open Game, Scandinavian, Alekhine's Defense, Modern Defense, Pirc Defense... And in some of those, if you don't know the theory you can get screwed pretty quick. For d4, you've got the Indian Game, which has a ton of variations but the main idea for white is the same to a point, and then you've got the Closed Game leading to QG, London, or something else.

Abtectous
c4 when I play Nf6 and transpose into the king’s Indian so you essentially played d4
Abtectous
But no seriously c4 is good. I prefer playing the KIA because it can’t get transposes into something else unless I choose to
Chickenfarmer2009

After 1. c4 Nf6, white does not have to play d4; they can play g3 for a fianchetto, Nc3, Nf3, or really anything. They can transpose to the Indian Game, but they certainly don't have to.

KIA is my secondary for white! Well for both it's usually white controlling the transpositions, but yeah, it's good to have control over the game, along with flexibility. e4 and d4 don't give you nearly as much flexibility.

chesspage1_is_awesome
E4 is better cuz it can lead to sharp and tense games
Knuxhead69

e4 i found to be better. thats where scholers mate black even fools mate if your lucky, and like bloodshed early, probably cuz i suck. d4 is also good with the london, i just do Nc2+ when my bishop is there, im either winning a queen or rook

bleuberry0_0

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glovkye

I like d4 but e4 is better so e4

brianchesscake

e4 is for people who want to win, d4 is for people who play chess to look cool but end up drawing or losing all their games

Knuxhead69

ive won with d4 before

brianchesscake
Knuxhead69 wrote:

ive won with d4 before

If you want to make your life more difficult that is none of my business

chessakiraL
brianchesscake wrote:

e4 is for people who want to win, d4 is for people who play chess to look cool but end up drawing or losing all their games

no, not exactly. It depends on what type of player you are, e4 can transpose into the Italian, ruy Lopez, and openings around these lines, but d4 lets you kind of test your opponents theory knowledge and I feel d4 generally helps you improve more. e4 though, transposes into many lines as well, so it really depends on style. in general, I'd say e4 for attack, d4 for position, something like c4 for both, but there are different cases as well

brianchesscake
chessakiraL wrote:
brianchesscake wrote:

e4 is for people who want to win, d4 is for people who play chess to look cool but end up drawing or losing all their games

no, not exactly. It depends on what type of player you are, e4 can transpose into the Italian, ruy Lopez, and openings around these lines, but d4 lets you kind of test your opponents theory knowledge and I feel d4 generally helps you improve more. e4 though, transposes into many lines as well, so it really depends on style. in general, I'd say e4 for attack, d4 for position, something like c4 for both, but there are different cases as well

Most beginners don't have a style, so I would recommend learning e4 openings first before d4 as this lets them get better at tactics before positional chess, which is harder to play well

chessakiraL
brianchesscake wrote:
chessakiraL wrote:
brianchesscake wrote:

e4 is for people who want to win, d4 is for people who play chess to look cool but end up drawing or losing all their games

no, not exactly. It depends on what type of player you are, e4 can transpose into the Italian, ruy Lopez, and openings around these lines, but d4 lets you kind of test your opponents theory knowledge and I feel d4 generally helps you improve more. e4 though, transposes into many lines as well, so it really depends on style. in general, I'd say e4 for attack, d4 for position, something like c4 for both, but there are different cases as well

Most beginners don't have a style, so I would recommend learning e4 openings first before d4 as this lets them get better at tactics before positional chess, which is harder to play well

yeah, that's what I did after hours of positional play and then realizing I'm getting checkmated a lot.

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