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DEMONYO

I am having trouble analyzing this old chess notation out of an older book that is suppose to help my chess game out & it's different when i try to work the game out on the board, like the moves start to not work out & i do not understand it at all. I start to really lose track during the middle game, i am begging for suggestions. : ) This isn't the same as the alphabetical notation.

for example.

WHITE-BLACK

1. P-Q4 - P-Q4

2. P-QB4 - P-K3

dgmcremer

this notation uses the position of queen side versus king side to denote the piece being moved.  p-qb4 is pawn to the queen's bishop 4, from that players side.  the numbers don't go across the board in only one direction.  QB4 is two different squares if given from the different playters

DEMONYO

Oh okay I think, so is there a free chess analyzer that i can just type in the notations ? because on this website i believe its the regular notation.

orangehonda

It's called descriptive notation and it was the "regular" notation until relatively recently.

It's not hard to learn, look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_chess_notation

As dgmcremer said (and you'll notice in the picture) e3 is K3 or K6 depending on if it was white's move or black's.  King three for white and king six for black.

I don't know of any free program that recognizes this notation.

kco

orangehonda ahh careful here K3 for White as well as for Black not K6 unless white move that pawn to there ! 

Benkobaby

It's not "alphabetical" it's "descriptive notation" get a grip ... many excellent chess books (which will probably never be republished) will use this notation. If you want to learn from them then you'll have to cough up the time to learn "descriptive" notation.

 

I understand your frustration - trust me ... when I was in my twenties I was pissed when the chess world changed to alpha-numeric. Now that I've used and abused same I wouldn't consider going back to descriptive.

 

Just to confuse you: there's also ICCF notation - it's simple but a different languageCool

orangehonda
kco wrote:

orangehonda ahh careful here K3 for White as well as for Black not K6 unless white move that pawn to there ! 


Not sure what you mean?  As I said, if white moves there it's K3, if black moves there it's K6 (?)

kco

Yes I understand that but you might confuse the OP Tongue out

kco

when you said K3 K6 could (be confuse with) as 1.PK3 PK3 (1.e3 e6)

orangehonda

I just thought this image would confuse the OP, so I was saying depending on the perspective of the player (white or black) the same square can have two names, shrug*

orangehonda
kco wrote:

when you said K3 K6 could (be confuse with) as 1.PK3 PK3 (1.e3 e6)


Oh, I see.

Well I'm sure he's thoroughly confused by now anyway Tongue out

kco

yep that for sure.

kco

also some older book have Kt for Knight instead of N ! ahh !

Dragec
orangehonda wrote:

It's called descriptive notation and it was the "regular" notation until relatively recently.


I'm glad that it wasn't used in my part of the world, so I guess it was regular only in some countries.

Algebraic and figurine is all I can remember, even in the old chess books before WWII. Cool

alejandroochoa52

thats means p d 4

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