Ponz Says He Can Refute Ponziani!

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Indyfilmguy

 

It does not matter if you are good with computers or not  you are not allowed to use outside help from another individual. Those are the rules

[I don't make the rules]

ponz111

Indy are you trolling?

Returnofcookiemonster

Ive seen how cheaters work when playing in chess there was this whole controversy how one individual was playing so solidly that he was caught cheating in a tournament. He wasnt using no engines, but they found out how he couldve been cheating one master of chess that teaches chess videos here was actually dissecting the guys play, all the moves that guy was using wasnt his own ideas in chess and went as far to say the guy could be using bionic contact lenses.

ponz111

Indy    which FM who got banned?  I think you mentioned he was working on something?  If you mean FM Bluebird apparently he got banned for using a chess engine in games where chess engines were not allowed.

But Bluebird was not working on anything except to try and win his game vs me.

Returnofcookiemonster

Here is a video of one a master analyzing a cheater its unreal, some of the things he analyzed seem to be true, but come on to go as far as to say the guy was using bionic contact lenses, really????

http://youtu.be/o2Yla2yn_34

But anyways, the question i was gonna ask is it possible for me to play against a strong player in those tournaments?????

Returnofcookiemonster
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ponz111

returnof  If you are worried about cheaters using chess engines in chess tournaments  maybe you should consider not playing in that Golden Knights tournament?

[I am not telling you what to do]

Returnofcookiemonster

No im not worried, im already in the tournament im just wondering if i would be able to play people in their 2000's

ponz111 wrote:

returnof  If you are worried about cheaters using chess engines in chess tournaments  maybe you should consider not playing in that Golden Knights tournament?

[I am not telling you what to do]

ponz111

returnof  It will be a very educational experience!

ponz111

Indyfilmguy  In these 7 games chess engines were allowed and encouraged.

I am not 100% sure if the one player used a chess engine or not?  I know all the others used a chess engine as did I. [this was part of the contest-chess engines encouraged and allowed--[Centaur Chess in other words]

I was good at non Centaur Chess way before even chess engines were invented--maybe I am fairly good at Centaur Chess? 

ponz111

For those who have been following this thread:

The 7 games where I took Black v the Ponziani are essentially over.

There is one game which is in a resignable position for my opponent [I am winning]

This was an event where chess engines were allowed and encouraged. [and my first try at Centaur Chess]

My statement [said in jest] was I would play Black against the Ponziani and "refute" my favorite opening [The Ponziani] This was not done as I did not win all 7 games. My final score was 5 wins and 2 draws.

All 7 games were steered into the Fraser variation as championed by Brian Wall.  [I had some theoretical improvements in mind.] 

This was a very unusual variation where Black sacrifces a bishop early in the opening.  Here are the last two games:  draw vs Expertise87 and am winning vs Mainline_Novelty

Expertise87 vs ponz111  [note this is a 2nd game vs Expertise--ponz111 won the first game]  to be continued:

ponz111

Expertise87 vs Ponz111

ponz111

Mainline_Novelty   vs ponz111



DefinitelyNotGM

A few games you won don't refute anything.

ponz111

PS please do not yet comment on this last game in this forum until it is offically over.

DefinitelyNotGM

You give hardly any analysis

DefinitelyNotGM

The computer doesn't seem to like your refutation... then the analysis goes deeper...

ponz111

DefinitelyNotGM  Yes, I agree a few games I won do not refute anything.

For Ponziani fans [and I am one of them][ what does this mean for the Ponziani?  It really means very little!  Why?

Because this is an extremely complicated variation which you will rarely see Black use.  For Black to use this variation he must study for days the several White replies. With this experiment we are discovering the best and worse Black replies?

A competent Ponziani player or vote chess team will know this line and be ready for it!

ponz111

I know I hardly gave any analysis.  These variations are very complicated and I will leave them at this point for others to analyze.  And it is true in the game vs Expertise the chess engines give Black the advantage.  However studying it more it seems to come out to an even game.

This Fraser variation is simply too complicated to post a good analysis but anyone is free to comment on the 6 games completed.

I will note that the game with 1 random ended in a very unusual endgame which could be fun for some to  analyze.

Mainline_Novelty

Yeah...sorry about my game...I was without access to my engine for a bit, and thus managed to completely screw myself over Embarassed