Poor Sportsmanship and Internet Chess: Your Thoughts and Stories

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KingPan
willisl0 wrote:

stop playing on YAHOO!


listen to him......!:)

KingPan
duyvejonck wrote:

I've had an opponent who used all kinds of offensive terms, which made me lose my concentration, and get way behind. His offensive remarks got worse when he thought he had won the game, but he got really furious when it ended in stalemate:

 

 


people like that makes me sick

headofwords

A friend recently said to me that the internet is a prime example of what happens to people when you take away discipline.  Recently I was whined at by some guy who claimed to be 42 because I didn't move fast enough on a greeter game for his liking.  Doing greeter games was something I tried out as a test, and I got two such complainers in my first five.  Proved to be a pretty worthless exercise to be honest, though I'm actually playing someone now who looks like he might last the distance (in like my 20th game).

As someone said before though, it isn't just kids.  Being polite and all that is basically about being grown up, but a lot of people in this day and age of bedroom a-holes never actually grow up.  And some people really are just a-holes, bedroom or not.

THawk

I used to see that all the time on chessclub.com (aka ICC). For some reason, a loss to a lower rated player always equates to the lower rated player using a computer... I've even had a player who would insult his former opponent in an open channel after he lost... When I ask him why he does that, he gives the reason that his opponent "insulted" him... :)

shakje

Bad sportsmanship in an online game...nothing surprising, and not something that particularly bothers me, sticks and stones etc. I find that chess is one of those sports like golf where you know your own ability and know when you're playing well, so having someone badmouth me doesn't really bother me because I know I'm either playing well enough to cow them, or that I've got a problem I can work on. Also, Yahoo is always going to be bad...

Much_Afraid

I agree with the person who said to beware of people who have disabled chat permanently in Live Chess.  Sure there will be times when someone is just fed up with dealing with other players.  However often times these chat disablers do it for a reason ie. they know they will be doing something annoying/unsportsmanlike and they don't want to be called on their actions (for example chronic draw offerers... etc.).

I see this a lot in Quick Chess where I know quite a few players off the top of my head who disable chat because they like to "win one and run", never giving a rematch.  Of course this only works if they happen to win the first game, but yea these types of players are generally unpopular in the Quick Chess arena and decide they don't like to hear about it so they disable their chat.  Fair enough.  I'm not even saying there is anything wrong with that plan.

Anyway... not too long ago I came across a Quick chess player with chat disabled.  I thought to myself, "Ok I better win this game because I sure won't be getting a rematch if I don't."  So with that in mind we started to play and unfortunately I psyched myself out a bit and hung a piece.  I resigned and already knowing the routine I requested a rematch not expecting to get one... and of course... I didn't.  So I left the game and found another. 

Here comes the best part...  After I left the game and started playing another, this chat disabling guy who just won one and ran against me finds my new ongoing game and decides to observe.  Now, after every move I made with this new opponent my observing friend would say "you suck!" and "how does it feel to lose all the time?!" and generally levelled a bunch of insults and other nonsense at me for no reason at all.  Yup now he was perfectly fine with the chatting feature. Tongue out   And it's not as if I egged him on as I couldn't chat with him in the first place.  He had this tactic planned from the outset.  I was still rated about 100 points ahead of him but that's when I realized the point to all of it.

His whole plan behind playing was to try to degrade others (preferrably better players) to raise his self-esteem.  His sole purpose in Live Chess was to desperately find ways to feel better about himself.  It was sad because he obviously had this all preconceived from disabling the chat in the initial game to following whoever he could beat to their subsequent games and berrating them.  Of course I didn't try to argue as I'm not that dumb to feed into this guy's game and eventually he got bored and moved on. 

But yea this is the kind of garbage that does lurk on internet chess sites. Thankfully it is not the norm.  I can tell you chess.com is the best site I've played on in my 10+ years of playing online chess and to the original poster if you even thought about going back to Yahoo quite frankly I'd think you were insane. Tongue out

Sconsc

I haven't played quick here in a while butI sometimes decline rematches in quick chess for a variety of reasons ranging from ,opponent too weak, opponent lagging, loosing badly and geting mad, winning but playing badly etc. and I see nothing wrong with doing this. Also I fail to understand how you can say this is the best place you've played at in 10years of internet chess with a quick record of +50/-8/=0 this place dosen't seem to offer you an experienced enough playing pool for live chess. Or do you just enjoy beating the weakies?

RetGuvvie98
Much_Afraid wrote:

Anyway... not too long ago I came across a Quick chess player with chat disabled.  I thought to myself, "Ok I better win this game because I sure won't be getting a rematch if I don't."  So with that in mind we started to play and unfortunately I psyched myself out a bit and hung a piece.  I resigned and already knowing the routine I requested a rematch not expecting to get one... and of course... I didn't.  So I left the game and found another. 

Here comes the best part...  After I left the game and started playing another, this chat disabling guy who just won one and ran against me finds my new ongoing game and decides to observe.  Now, after every move I made with this new opponent my observing friend would say "you suck!" and "how does it feel to lose all the time?!" and generally levelled a bunch of insults and other nonsense at me for no reason at all.  Yup now he was perfectly fine with the chatting feature.    And it's not as if I egged him on as I couldn't chat with him in the first place.  He had this tactic planned from the outset.  I was still rated about 100 points ahead of him but that's when I realized the point to all of it.


Much_Afraid,  if you want that type of behavior to stop, all you have to do is take a screenshot showing the abusive chatter, and send it in an email to abuse@chess.com  and ask them to provide some discipline to the misbehaving user.

Regards, Ret.

Housewrecker

I've only played live on yahoo once and I'll never do it again. I was slow to move because it had a different interface than chess.com, which I was used to, and I was immediately bombarded with homophobic slurs and attacks. Once the game got going my opponent continued to insult me the entire time to try (I'm guessing) to psychologically distract me. Maybe I'm old school but I think of chess as a game that should be played with class.

JG27Pyth

Food Cubes:

So for the second time in a couple weeks I came across another poor sport on Yahoo Chess.

 In a couple weeks? I can only assume you only played twice in a couple weeks... Every single time I tried to play chess there in the past I ran into jerks.  I long ago gave up trying to play chess on yahoo.. Why bother when there are so many other better alternatives... particularly HERE! (there's a few idjits haunting Live Chess, but nothing like Yahoo, at least not yet *crosses fingers.* )

m74m2008

Yeah, what I dislike most about chess on Yahoo is that they all are so snobbish. I haven't played much chess there, so I still have a "provisional" rating. I tried to play some chess there a few weeks ago because Live Chess here was being buggish, and if I tried to join a game, my opponent just wouldn't click "Start Game", so I ended up wasting a bit of time, and I never will play chess there again. It just isn't worth it, and I enjoy playing here on Chess.com so much more than I ever did on Yahoo.

dashkee94

I don't play much online, but when I do I conduct myself as if it were an OTB tournament game.  I don't talk to my opponent, and when they try to send me a comment, I just ignore it.  The players with class respect that I don't communicate, and the ones with no class keep trying to force a comment out of me.  As far as I'm concerned, you are in control here.  If an e-diot tries to goad you somehow, it's up to you to rise to the bait.  Don't rise to the bait.  In this case, ignorance is bliss.  Observe the silence-while-playing rule, and engage in comments only after the game, and only about the game.  There is a rule to observe (if I may coin a phrase)--when argueing with an e-diot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing.  Stooping to his level doesn't help your case.

RetGuvvie98

extremely well put dashkee94.  very astute of you to say it that way.

clever too.Wink

dashkee94

RetGuvvie98

I see by your post that your are a highly intelligent individual with taste and class.Cool

Thanks for the comment.

Vance917
dashkee94 wrote:

I don't play much online, but when I do I conduct myself as if it were an OTB tournament game.  I don't talk to my opponent, and when they try to send me a comment, I just ignore it.  The players with class respect that I don't communicate, and the ones with no class keep trying to force a comment out of me.  As far as I'm concerned, you are in control here.  If an e-diot tries to goad you somehow, it's up to you to rise to the bait.  Don't rise to the bait.  In this case, ignorance is bliss.  Observe the silence-while-playing rule, and engage in comments only after the game, and only about the game.  There is a rule to observe (if I may coin a phrase)--when argueing with an e-diot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing.  Stooping to his level doesn't help your case.


 I don't know about "e-idiot", but if you ignore someone who says "good game", then you are being "e-rude".

Much_Afraid
Sconsc wrote:

I haven't played quick here in a while butI sometimes decline rematches in quick chess for a variety of reasons ranging from ,opponent too weak, opponent lagging, loosing badly and geting mad, winning but playing badly etc. and I see nothing wrong with doing this. Also I fail to understand how you can say this is the best place you've played at in 10years of internet chess with a quick record of +50/-8/=0 this place dosen't seem to offer you an experienced enough playing pool for live chess. Or do you just enjoy beating the weakies?


Sconsc this is why I put the disclaimer in my post about the "one and run" bullet players stating "Fair enough.  I'm not even saying there is anything wrong with that plan."  I figured one of those losers might take offense.

When I said chess.com is the best site I've played on in 10 years I really meant the turn-based chess, not to mention the overall feel of the site including the community, forums, teams, blogs, etc.  This site has unlimited potential and it's only just begun.

As for Live Chess you are right, I only played those 58 games that you mentioned over the course of a couple of days and haven't gone back to play in about 2 months.  The pool is generally too weak and so I play my blitz and bullet chess at ICC.  However I can see there will be no end to the competition found in the turn-based portion and that is what I am looking forward to.  Thanks for the interrogation. Wink

Much_Afraid
RetGuvvie98 wrote:


Much_Afraid,  if you want that type of behavior to stop, all you have to do is take a screenshot showing the abusive chatter, and send it in an email to abuse@chess.com  and ask them to provide some discipline to the misbehaving user.

Regards, Ret.


Thanks Ret I'll definitely try that next time.

dashkee94

Vance917

Why is not responding to "good game" rude?  If you don't look at any comments you won't see the comment, and as I said, in this case, ignorance is bliss.  If I'm online playing, I'm online playing--not conversing.  Don't get the idea that everyone who doesn't respond is high and mighty or arrogant or trying out the lastest variation of being a jerk.  Some of us just play.  I've been told good game by players who hung two pieces, or mate at move 12.  I don't consider them good games and I consider the comment an opening for rudeness, so I don't respond.  But if it is a game that goes 45-50 moves with some intense tactics and/or positional play, then I will send the comment good game, whether I win or lose.  If the other player sends back a counter-comment, I may read it, or I might already be playing a new game and will not respond.  If you are offended by this, I apologize, but I'm not playing online to make friends or to pass the time.  I'm here to play--it's on the forums that I chat.

RetGuvvie98
Vance917 wrote:

 I don't know about "e-idiot", but if you ignore someone who says "good game", then you are being "e-rude".


Vance917,

    he has that privilege - to ignore any comments or all comments by opponents.  while you might be right, he is also 'right' to a point.

    rudeness on the internet seems to be endemic, unfortunately. 

   I would respond to any opponent who said 'good game'  whether to thank them, agree with them(when I lose), or to point out that it was a blunder-filled game and could have been better.

    But each player is free to respond or not, as their mood strikes them, and not obligated to respond.

 

actually, I just looked here, and it would appear that dashkee94 has not played any games, live or turn-based on chess.com; so it isn't really apparent what he has based his opinion about responding to comments on.   .....  

       BUT:  He is fully entitled to his opinion, and as long as he is posting within the "terms of service" for the site (as he is), More Power To Him.

regards,

ret.

RetGuvvie98

bbracken wrote:   Discipline and proper behaviour are not taught by many of today's parents, and it shows.


full employment for site moderators (baseballfan and others).Wink