Practice makes perfect.... or not?

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I_PLAY_OK
So awhile back I saw a guys profile and he had played over 35000 games of bullet chess since 2014... and was slowly declining. Before I saw that I thought that just practice was a good way to get better, but now I think I’ve changed my mind... what are some of your thoughts on this?
ErikWQ

Bullet rots your brain. That stuff is a waste of time.

RothKevin

Yes. As Erik mentioned playing lots of blitz/bullet has negative long term effects on your playing ability.

Slower time controls, endgame study, tactics training, and looking at positions and variations (problem solving and visualizing) in a physical board have all proven to steadily improve chess.

I_PLAY_OK
Thanks for the input! I’ve heard similar stuff from other people, but it don’t clearly see how you wouldn’t get better. How could you not learn a strategy to get better after so many games? Was this a special case, or is it common for such a decline to occur? If the latter, then I will definitely limit my speed chess!
(I should note that it was actually blitz chess, but I did a brain fart and said bullet)
RothKevin

The reason is that in blitz games you don't have enough time to think and make a correct judgement on the position. You basically play off "instinct" and memory of similar positions. It is possible that one makes improvement but it will be a very slow improvement.

Blitz improves tactics or short term combination. Normal speed chess improves Strategy or long term plans and positional advantages (which in turn also improve tactics).

ErikWQ
I_PLAY_OK wrote:
Thanks for the input! I’ve heard similar stuff from other people, but it don’t clearly see how you wouldn’t get better. How could you not learn a strategy to get better after so many games? Was this a special case, or is it common for such a decline to occur? If the latter, then I will definitely limit my speed chess!
(I should note that it was actually blitz chess, but I did a brain fart and said bullet)

 

It's very common that people waste years playing speed chess and never break 1000 rating. If you really want to improve, I'd quit playing it altogether.

SmithyQ

In reality, practice makes permanent.  If you play bullet without really thinking, not looking at why you lost, not looking up better moves, not digging into all the tactics you missed ... then you'll get really good at playing bullet without thinking.

It takes more than just mindless practice, it takes deliberate practice, of intentionally trying something, seeing the results and then using that to improve.  Suffice to say, the vast majority of bullet players do not do this and play just for the rush.  There's nothing wrong with that, but you can't then turn around and complain you aren't improving.

Jenot

Playing too much can be bad, because you try to "hold your level" (or even improve), but this can be deceiving. Especially playing too much Blitz (or even worse: Bullet) can be a bad habit.

I switched to 15 10 recently (instead of playing Blitz), but i am quite bad at it (although my OTB Rating is not that bad in really long games). 
I think: by playing alone (without analysing afterwards, and without training apart from playing) progress is not easy (or even impossible).   

IcyAvaleigh
Practice makes better in most cases :) but never perfect
BlargDragon

 You can get better through practice, but eventually you reach a wall and you get less and less return for your practice. The only way to break through and truly attain perfection is to fight a GM to the death, win, and absorb their powers.

neverherebefore

Just be more perfect than your rivals wink.png