Promoting to....A PAWN ? Can it Help ?

The_Ghostess_Lola

I cannot find a condition where promoting to a pawn would actually help a player.

The_Ghostess_Lola

If so, then this would invalidate the argument that chess should have a option for a player to leave the pawn a pawn at "promotion". 

LM_player
If you promote a pawn to a pawn. Then you end up having to choose again as if you never chose.
The_Ghostess_Lola

....thus the square in which the pawn resides becomes an occupied yet dormant square.

The_Ghostess_Lola

Why ?

The_Ghostess_Lola

IOW's, how could it help you ?....example ?

The_Ghostess_Lola

This is something FIDE could base their argument on if pressed for a rules change. They could say this cannot help nor hurt either player. But then it would serve as akinda dormant blocker, tho' a piece could do the same.

The_Ghostess_Lola

Right now, I'm trying to setup a condition where it plays a factor....but I can't ! 

AussieRookie

Controlling key squares like c9 and e9 could be crucial.

The_Ghostess_Lola

My rating is 1540+ not 1755. You're hovering mouse lies to you....Undecided....

Pleez sight ur example, if u say google has them. I can't find any.

The_Ghostess_Lola
AussieRookie wrote:

Controlling key squares like c9 and e9 could be crucial.

Now that's thinking outside the box....

LM_player
Outside the board*
oregonpatzer

In those positions where I don't need any more pieces to win, but am feeling a little parched, I would like to promote a pawn to a bottle of beer as my reward for getting it safely to the eighth rank. 

The_Ghostess_Lola

My point is alotta ppl complain about FIDE rules that you can't promote a pawn to another friendly king (kinda makes sense), a enemy piece (kinda makes sense), or let it remain a pawn (doesn't really make sense....unless we can't justify leaving it a pawn....which is the thrust of this thread).  

AlkinKing
Only positive it can have would be if you were flagging someone on time or if the pawn move resulted in checkmate. Since leaving the pawn and hitting the clock is technically an illegal move.
The_Ghostess_Lola

....or if the pawn move resulted in checkmate.

That's what I'm trying to say. Someone show me a condition where leaving it a pawn would result in # where underpromoting wouldn't accomplish the same thing.

As far as flagging someone, well, I get that one, but we can't base our rulebook on flagging someone. That should be a byproduct of the game itself.

The_Ghostess_Lola

So my argument remains. If leaving it a pawn, then why would FIDE care if u promoted to a more valuable piece or not ?

The_Ghostess_Lola

As you can see, I'm trying to justify WHY you can't leave it a benign pawn. Is this just another one a those random rules that holds no saltwater ?....which is something I can't stand, BTW.

RALRAL3333
Everyone is missing something here. There is a reason this move is called a pawn PROMOTION. if the pawn remained a pawn, it would not be promoted. Thats why you cant promote a pawn to a pawn, because then it was not promoted
AlkinKing
Under promoting it would still achieve mate but if you only had precious seconds on the clock you might flag trying to find that piece to promote it to.