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but yeah i agree on the Sicilian being boring
Prove Me Wrong: The Sicilian Defense is a Boring Opening
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Nov 2, 2021
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Also Masked, I can see what the link is when I hover over it, try next buddy 
Imagine rickrolling
Nov 2, 2021
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royalknight101 wrote:
arent the dragon and najdorf the moste exciting tho?
Yeah those are exciting
Nov 2, 2021
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Optimissed wrote:
Najdorf is positional except in lines like the poisoned pawn, which no-one usually plays. I mean, you can't say it's exciting because once in a while someone plays that and it's necessary to memorise three thousand lines of theory for it. The Dragon is just dull and mainly depends on black managing to sac a R from c8. Again, white just plays positionally against it.
Well, to be sure, you are certainly a lot stronger than myself so I respect what you are saying, but I feel there are more dangerous lines for black than just poisoned pawn.
On my intermediate level, sometimes those games get to the endgame, but in many cases someone misplays the position.
For instance even 5.Be2 line can be dangerous if black castles before playing Be6. White can actually play g4 and attack like in e3 lines and even though the game is not over, it becomes unnecessary difficult to play for black.
To be fair now, it turned out that I lost to a cheater, but it was a really clever idea to lull me in a false sense of security to think it is a more calm Opocensky variation.
If I have played Be6, I could even push d5 and get some ok endgame, or there were other moves of course that would keep more things on the board as well.
What I am saying, there are a lot of ways to play Najdorf, and you could win or lose at an instant. Of course, I respect your opinion. You are more experienced than me.
Nov 2, 2021
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noImAparrot wrote:
Also Masked, I can see what the link is when I hover over it, try next buddy
I looked at this comment and immediately knew the link masked posted was a rickroll
Nov 2, 2021
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#14
ImDatDood wrote:
i admit, i got rickrolled
finally lol
noim and mox kinda ruined my attempt :/
Nov 2, 2021
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#15
royalknight101 wrote:
nklristic wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
Najdorf is positional except in lines like the poisoned pawn, which no-one usually plays. I mean, you can't say it's exciting because once in a while someone plays that and it's necessary to memorise three thousand lines of theory for it. The Dragon is just dull and mainly depends on black managing to sac a R from c8. Again, white just plays positionally against it.
Well, to be sure, you are certainly a lot stronger than myself so I get what you are saying, but I feel there are more dangerous lines for black than just poisoned pawn.
On my intermediate level, sometimes those games get to the endgame, but in many cases someone misplays the position. For instance even 5.Be2 line can be dangerous if black castles before playing Be6. White can actually play g4 and attack like in e3 lines and even though the game is not over, it becomes unnecessary difficult to play for black.
yes there are tons of dangerous lines to balance out the positions and make them more complicated and hard for there to be drawing chances. black can go all broke or home with sacrificing pieces, giving tactical combinations or even not castling but creating counterplay
I find the opening really vast and interesting. I feel it is something I can play and learn little by little. Even if it means losing like this. When I saw g4 I was like: wow what a clever counter move to my stupid castling. 
That alone made this game worth playing in my opinion.
Nov 2, 2021
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#16
royalknight101 wrote:
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
The Sicilian isn't as boring as the Rick Astley meme.
i agree, the tricks are just boring and easy to spot at this point
The only interesting rickroll I've seen in years is this one:
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Nov 2, 2021
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#18
blueemu wrote:
royalknight101 wrote:
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
The Sicilian isn't as boring as the Rick Astley meme.
i agree, the tricks are just boring and easy to spot at this point
The only interesting rickroll I've seen in years is this one:
the question is, did you click the link?
Nov 2, 2021
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#20
MaskedNuisance wrote:
blueemu wrote:
royalknight101 wrote:
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
The Sicilian isn't as boring as the Rick Astley meme.
i agree, the tricks are just boring and easy to spot at this point
The only interesting rickroll I've seen in years is this one:
the question is, did you click the link?
The actual URL appears at the bottom left of the screen when you mouse-over it.
Everybody knows that.
Pretty much the title says it all. I've been seeing all these books saying that the Sicilian Defense is really exciting and dynamic, however from my personal experience the Sicilian leads to EXTREMELY dull positions. I'm probably playing the wrong lines of the Sicilian as white, but every time I play 1.e4 and am met with 1...c5 I let out a slight groan, "ugh not again! this is why I play e4 to get these exciting games and not positional manuve ring like the positions that result in the QGD, (and besides I always play the QGA and almost immediately follow up with 3...c5, the Gunsberg Defense, which seems to have served me well.). So back to the Sicilian, my question is why do the books praise it as "leading to exciting and unbalanced positions" from what I can tell is that Black locks in his dark-squared bishop early and sometimes follows up with e5, blocking the fienchetto diagonal.
Here's the perfect example of a Sicilian game becoming a very standoffish and dull match:
https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/286667617633610
Does anyone else find the Sicilian to be a non-aggressive and boring opening?