That's pretty funny; not at all what I was expecting.
Reasons not to play too much blitz online
btw, the people in my chess federation are so selfish, that if someone touches the rook first for castling, they immediately claim touch and move rule and don't allow castling.
btw, the people in my chess federation are so selfish, that if someone touches the rook first for castling, they immediately claim touch and move rule and don't allow castling.
Wow that's pretty bad. If someone was enough of an a-hole to try that with me I'd just castle and claim that I touched the king first.
That's even worse. Rules are rules.
Touch move is about intent, if you touch the rook first in an action that's obviously meant as a castling manouvre, then I don't think you can reasonable be forced to move the rook.
This is why the touch the king first rule is in place. If white (your opponent) picked up his a1 rook and moved it towards your queen, only then realising he would be checkmated, decided to castle instead...
Yeah, but if he moved it towards the queen then he's obviously not intending to castle. If he reaches for his king as well with the other hand, but accidently touches the rook first, he is.
It's more clear cut in the opening, when nobody ever plays 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. Rf1 and I think any arbiter enforcing touch move there isn't doing their job.
True, but where does the arbiter draw the line? Having them judge a players intent is too inconsistent.
It's much easier if the players just suck it up and touch their king first, it's not that hard.
Well, that's a harder question to answer. I do agree that it's a king move, but I don't like the idea of punishing for genuine mistakes.
I would say that it's a judgement call, and you're only given the benefit of the doubt for clear castling intentions, i.e. opening lines, where you clearly reach for the king at the same time etc.
Yeah, but if he moved it towards the queen then he's obviously not intending to castle. If he reaches for his king as well with the other hand, but accidently touches the rook first, he is.
It's more clear cut in the opening, when nobody ever plays 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. Rf1 and I think any arbiter enforcing touch move there isn't doing their job.
Ok.So by not declaring it a touch move and breaking the rule,they're doing their job.
#1: Yesterday in the first round of an OTB blitz tournament, I played Ke8-g8 and pressed my clock. Only then did I notice that my rook hadn't moved to f8 automatically...
My opponent was nice enough not to claim illegal move, but he could have.