Reincarnation in chess..WACKY

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Chigosian50

I've got this new pet theory, that there only exists 12 archetypal chess players throughout history, but that they keep being reincarnated or possibly re-combined. Carlsen is a new Fischer, Gelfand is a new Rubinstein, Aronian is a new Petrosian re-incarnated as an attacker or possibly a new Lasker, Spassky was a new Chigorin, Fischer was a new Steinitz and Karpov ofc a new Capablanca. Kasparov was Aljechin redevivus etc. Any takers?  

atarw

I have the playing ability of NN.

His soul is within me.

macer75

 Radjabov is the reincarnation of Howard Wolowitz.

Jenium

Jenium = Ostap Bender

AlCzervik

I know on c.c there are many reincarnations.

konhidras
pellik wrote:

There are other threads on this topic which discuss the similarities between modern players and historical ones in great detail.

Carlsen is the reincarnation of Capablanca.

wrong!. Carlsen is the reincarnation of Matt Daemon

AlCzervik

Russell Crowe?

konhidras

Kramnik is the reincarnation of Gosh groban

jason17

Why not expand out your theory and suggest that there are only 12 archetypal people in general who keep getting reincarnated and combined? Why limit it to chess?

AlCzervik

Dude, you just blew my mind.

Ubik42
jason17 wrote:

Why not expand out your theory and suggest that there are only 12 archetypal people in general who keep getting reincarnated and combined? Why limit it to chess?

There are 12 cylon models.

Iknownotwhy

There are also only 26 letters in the English alphabet and every single English word is somehow a mixture of some of those letters.It might sound absurd but I have checked it so now I eat more pancakes because I don't know if my pet dog has been reincarnated or just acting like a chess player.

Arraskrahe
Jenium wrote:

Jenium = Ostap Bender

You know that Tal graduated in Literature in Riga and did his thesis on the subject of "The Twelve Chairs" by Ilf Petrov.

TetsuoShima

i totally disagree i think Fischer was a mix of Capablanca and Morphy, anyway i dont Carlsen is anywere close to Fischer. Even though yes outplaying in the queens indian is quite funny, but still.

no Fischer was probably a mix of Capablanca, Morphy and the accuracy of Rubinstein.

Chigosian50

TetsuoShima

i totally disagree i think Fischer was a mix of Capablanca and Morphy, anyway i dont Carlsen is anywere close to Fischer."

Glad someone disagrees! You might be right about Fischer and his style of play, but his inspiration remained Steinitz, not Capablanca. He modernised Steinitz' theory as a way of dethroning the Soviets, and they had the same attitude to openings and positional play.

The comparison of Carlsen's style of play to Fischer was made by Anand a few years ago, as they both have a knack of making something incredibly complex look beautifully simple.

Sunofthemorninglight
AlCzervik wrote:

Russell Crowe?

He'd do a great "Fischer" in Hollywood, put chess on the map!

TetsuoShima
Chigosian50 wrote:

TetsuoShima

i totally disagree i think Fischer was a mix of Capablanca and Morphy, anyway i dont Carlsen is anywere close to Fischer."

Glad someone disagrees! You might be right about Fischer and his style of play, but his inspiration remained Steinitz, not Capablanca. He modernised Steinitz' theory as a way of dethroning the Soviets, and they had the same attitude to openings and positional play.

The comparison of Carlsen's style of play to Fischer was made by Anand a few years ago, as they both have a knack of making something incredibly complex look beautifully simple.

What Steinitz theory did modernize???

helltank

Shirov=Tal

Chigosian50

My impression from reading in Kasparov's and Karsten Mueller's two recent books on Fischer is that Fischer defeated the Soviets by pure rationality and concrete analysis, and by being supremely driven. Compared to the different styles of Keres, Smyslov, Botvinnik, Bronstein, Tal, Taimanov, Petrosian and Spassky, he had an almost fanatical devotion to truth in analysis (compared to creative self-expression). "I only believe in good moves". Maybe I should have said he perfected Steinitz's system by taking the analysis much further. At heart they were both scientific materialists.

Compare this to Misha Tal's "a chess game is a poem that can only be read once".

Robert_New_Alekhine
konhidras wrote:

Kramnik is the reincarnation of Gosh groban

Do you mean goom grabo?