Respect and Disrespect

So...let's say Carlsen has blundered.  He's down a clear pawn for no compensation and queens are off the board.

Not blitz.  G120 or slower.  Is he resigning against a 2400?

It depends on the position and his compensation; this has nothing to do with respect or not. He'll resign if he feels he is lost and he will continue if he believes he has fighting chances. In Carlsen's case, he is known for fighting in equal (not the same as drawn!) positions and pulling out a win.

Let us also keep in mind that Carlsen is over 450 rating points higher than a 2400. Would you resign down a pawn against someone 450 points lower rated than you?

At least for myself, I'm seldom resigning at this moment here. Perhaps play on for a few moves and resign if the position doesn't improve itself.

I would not, but my games are blunderfests. I'm assuming he's resigning against another WC candidate (who is not, realistically, going to blow the position). But I guess what I'm getting at is whether a clear pawn up enough for a 2400. Of course it still depends on the details, but the situation i was visualizing is one of truly no compensation. The 2400 is going to have to lose at pawn odds with queens off.

With no compensation, then a pawn down is resignable even below 2400 level. I've resigned in some of my own games when down by just a pawn (but I've also continued to fight when down by way more than a pawn as well, but in those cases, I had some compensation or counterplay).

If a 2400 vs a 2400 was down a pawn with no compensation, then it is justifiable to resign, but the same is probably also true for 2000 vs 2000 in the same situation.

The situation is slightly different when one player is way higher rated though because they have better chances for creating counterplay and therefore aren't lost (even if objectively bad).

There is almost no possibility that Carlsen would resign in that scenario. Chess is a fight and the win in that situation is far from automatic. So what if the position is won with perfect play. No one plays perfectly. The job of the champion is not to meekly resign.

Carlsen could probably beat a 2400 at Pawn odds.

A 400-point rating gap is 9-to-1 odds, without the Pawn odds.. isn't it?

I think that's what the math says. But it always seems to me rating is more determinant that the theory suggests...like, as I now stand at 1500 (chess.com rapid), I am not losing one of ten to an 1100, nor am I winning one of ten from a 1900. Also, the 1100 isn't going to get two draws from me out of ten, and I am not going to get two draws from the 1900 out of ten. At least that's how it seems to me.

Urprising game is Praggnanandhaa vs Nakumura during the 2023 world championship where Praggnanandhaa found himself in a winning position and Nakamura didn't give up and the game continued for a long time.

In this game we could talk about disrespect in the sense of needlessly wasting time for Praggnanandhaa who'll end up winning more or less easily.

In reality it seems obvious to me that Nakamura wasn't trying to disrespect his opponent just he blundered and found himself losing position quite quickly then psychologically he couldn't accept to lose like this so he continued the game even if it was too likely that he could only end up losing.

Re: Praggnanandhaa vs Nakumura. One of the reasons Hikaru is one of the best players in the world is because he had snatched draws, or even wins, out of much worse positions than he had in that game--hundreds of times. He didn't play on because he was embarrassed, he played on because he is a fighter.

This is true of all the really great players. Getting a "winning" position against them is when troubles start. They will fight, set traps, look for counterplay and try to confuse you. Players like Carlsen, Nakamura, and Caruana frequently save "lost" positions. If they didn't have that kind of fighting spirit, they wouldn't be the best players.

What about when Carlsen blundered a whole piece at Wijk ann Zee 2018 against 2600 Gawain jones. Carlsen walked into his prep in the Sicilian Dragon and he won lol so no even with the black pieces down a central pawn in the opening or losing his passer in the ending he wont resign especially against a 2400 although alot of the GM's at the top say 2500's are all underrated and much more difficult to beat with black but that has more to do due with inflation/deflation than anything else.