Restriction due to aborting games

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LaakyBoy wrote:
Uživatel B1ZMARK napsal:
RAU4ever wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
LaakyBoy wrote:

A few thousand people in a city with 7 milions people.....massive protests :-D

If you think it's so easy, why don't you live in an authoritarian state which either jails or kills you for disagreeing with the government? Typical armchair analysis. It's always easy in theory.

How about you start by going to friends to help snowball a march of 1.000.000 people against the war? Right now you're just on chess.com doing nothing to stop your government?

Because it's not my government. I am using the Russian flag for personal reasons. And I just said, it's not easy to be a hero.

it's not easy, but it's not impossible either

At the same time, you tell me to start a protest myself. What is the difference between me and you? Age? Nationality? Location? Why am I in particular told to start a protest? Shouldn't those who are extremely invested in the conflict be the ones to start protests?

If the difference is in location, then sorry to tell you, but I'm located further away from Moscow than anybody in Europe is.

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Anyways, the OP is saying that he was unfairly restricted for aborting games against Russian players, which I actually feel should be his own choice. I'm not actually sure why chess.com has the abort restriction in place, probably to prevent abuse of it be constantly aborting vs people to lower the random factor in matchmaking.

I'm not sure what chess.com can do about this short of just removing the restriction, which probably isn't going to happen.

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Uživatel B1ZMARK napsal:
LaakyBoy wrote:
Uživatel B1ZMARK napsal:
RAU4ever wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
LaakyBoy wrote:

A few thousand people in a city with 7 milions people.....massive protests :-D

If you think it's so easy, why don't you live in an authoritarian state which either jails or kills you for disagreeing with the government? Typical armchair analysis. It's always easy in theory.

How about you start by going to friends to help snowball a march of 1.000.000 people against the war? Right now you're just on chess.com doing nothing to stop your government?

Because it's not my government. I am using the Russian flag for personal reasons. And I just said, it's not easy to be a hero.

it's not easy, but it's not impossible either

At the same time, you tell me to start a protest myself. What is the difference between me and you? Age? Nationality? Location? Why am I in particular told to start a protest? Shouldn't those who are extremely invested in the conflict be the ones to start protests?

If the difference is in location, then sorry to tell you, but I'm located further away from Moscow than anybody in Europe is.

 

OK you have an alibi...you are clean as a whistle...you can be proud of yourself :-)

 

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B1ZMARK wrote:
RAU4ever wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
LaakyBoy wrote:

A few thousand people in a city with 7 milions people.....massive protests :-D

If you think it's so easy, why don't you live in an authoritarian state which either jails or kills you for disagreeing with the government? Typical armchair analysis. It's always easy in theory.

How about you start by going to friends to help snowball a march of 1.000.000 people against the war? Right now you're just on chess.com doing nothing to stop your government?

Because it's not my government. I am using the Russian flag for personal reasons. And I just said, it's not easy to be a hero.

Check. I don't agree that it's not easy to be a hero. Heroes are also the people that just did what was needed. Sometimes a hero can be someone who does something really small. I understand full well that it's difficult right now in Russia and that everyone risks a sentence and problems in life if they protest this. However, the Berlin wall also didn't fall on its own. You just need large enough numbers of people who care.

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The Berlin wall didn't fall on its own, of course, but it also didn't fall down five days after it was erected, was it?

I'm not saying that the amount of protesters are big. I'm saying that it's too early to make judgement calls, that it's too early to EXPECT everybody in Russia to immediately denounce Putin.

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Uživatel RAU4ever napsal:
B1ZMARK wrote:
RAU4ever wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
LaakyBoy wrote:

A few thousand people in a city with 7 milions people.....massive protests :-D

If you think it's so easy, why don't you live in an authoritarian state which either jails or kills you for disagreeing with the government? Typical armchair analysis. It's always easy in theory.

How about you start by going to friends to help snowball a march of 1.000.000 people against the war? Right now you're just on chess.com doing nothing to stop your government?

Because it's not my government. I am using the Russian flag for personal reasons. And I just said, it's not easy to be a hero.

Check. I don't agree that it's not easy to be a hero. Heroes are also the people that just did what was needed. Sometimes a hero can be someone who does something really small. I understand full well that it's difficult right now in Russia and that everyone risks a sentence and problems in life if they protest this. However, the Berlin wall also didn't fall on its own. You just need large enough numbers of people who care.

 

THANKS

 

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yes

Avatar of sightem

you definitely don't have the right to do this

Avatar of InsertInterestingNameHere

Damn bro, you broke the rules, got punished, and are crying about it on the forums. Sucks. Also, another racist person. How splendid. 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYhsloRid_c

 

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ikr such a hero

Avatar of mozesieudo

block accounts of all players from Russia! let's not play with bandits!

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InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

Damn bro, you broke the rules, got punished, and are crying about it on the forums. Sucks. Also, another racist person. How splendid. 

Clearly not racist. Discriminating against a country that is committing war crimes is not racist, as I keep saying, though some people like you are too stupid to pickup on it.

If aborting against a Russian is racist, then by the same standard the sanctions that the USA (along with most other western countries) are imposing are racist. FIFA and UEFA are racist for banning the Russian football team. The IOC and IPC are racist for banning Russian athletes. Apple is racist for pulling its products from sale in Russia.

Your argument doesn't make any sense does it?

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NervesofButter wrote:
LeaMnum wrote:

But I am ready to, but not against those displaying a Russian flag. I have a right to abort such games without being restricted.

 

Its a flag.  Its a symbol.  You don't even know if the person is from or even in Russia.

As George Carlin said: "I leave symbols to the symbol minded."

As you said.  Yes you have every right to abort games.  Just like chess.com has every right to restrict your playing.

yes, I know a flag is a symbol. I see you have one in your profile pic - so guessing symbols are not just for the 'symbol' minded then?

And byw, it is more the combination of flag AND Cyrillic script that gives the nationality away. Obvs!

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NervesofButter wrote:
LeaMnum wrote:
InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

Damn bro, you broke the rules, got punished, and are crying about it on the forums. Sucks. Also, another racist person. How splendid. 

Clearly not racist. Discriminating against a country that is committing war crimes is not racist, as I keep saying, though some people like you are too stupid to pickup on it.

If aborting against a Russian is racist, then by the same standard the sanctions that the USA (along with most other western countries) are imposing are racist. FIFA and UEFA are racist for banning the Russian football team. The IOC and IPC are racist for banning Russian athletes. Apple is racist for pulling its products from sale in Russia.

Your argument doesn't make any sense does it?

I am now flying the Russian flag.  I am going to send you a game request.  If you are going to decline based on a flag.  The prove I am Russian, I am in Russia, I support Russia. 

 

You won't be able to challenge me, your rating is too low.

Avatar of LeaMnum
InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

Damn bro, you broke the rules, got punished, and are crying about it on the forums. Sucks. Also, another racist person. How splendid. 

and not 'crying' about it. Just asked why it was the case. Usually get an answer quicker in a forum than direct message.

Of course you do then get some idiots saying a bunch of rubbish into the bargain.

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NervesofButter wrote:
LeaMnum wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
LeaMnum wrote:
InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

Damn bro, you broke the rules, got punished, and are crying about it on the forums. Sucks. Also, another racist person. How splendid. 

Clearly not racist. Discriminating against a country that is committing war crimes is not racist, as I keep saying, though some people like you are too stupid to pickup on it.

If aborting against a Russian is racist, then by the same standard the sanctions that the USA (along with most other western countries) are imposing are racist. FIFA and UEFA are racist for banning the Russian football team. The IOC and IPC are racist for banning Russian athletes. Apple is racist for pulling its products from sale in Russia.

Your argument doesn't make any sense does it?

I am now flying the Russian flag.  I am going to send you a game request.  If you are going to decline based on a flag.  The prove I am Russian, I am in Russia, I support Russia. 

 

You won't be able to challenge me, your rating is too low.

Lets say my rating is very close to yours.  Would you accept my challenge or decline it because of a flag?  Now its on you to prove im Russian, support Russia, and or Putin.  How do you plan on doing that?

duh, you are called Michael and just changed your flag to Russian.  I'd decline your challenge on the basis that playing you would be as boring as talking to you.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

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NervesofButter wrote:
LeaMnum wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
LeaMnum wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:
LeaMnum wrote:
InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

Damn bro, you broke the rules, got punished, and are crying about it on the forums. Sucks. Also, another racist person. How splendid. 

Clearly not racist. Discriminating against a country that is committing war crimes is not racist, as I keep saying, though some people like you are too stupid to pickup on it.

If aborting against a Russian is racist, then by the same standard the sanctions that the USA (along with most other western countries) are imposing are racist. FIFA and UEFA are racist for banning the Russian football team. The IOC and IPC are racist for banning Russian athletes. Apple is racist for pulling its products from sale in Russia.

Your argument doesn't make any sense does it?

I am now flying the Russian flag.  I am going to send you a game request.  If you are going to decline based on a flag.  The prove I am Russian, I am in Russia, I support Russia. 

 

You won't be able to challenge me, your rating is too low.

Lets say my rating is very close to yours.  Would you accept my challenge or decline it because of a flag?  Now its on you to prove im Russian, support Russia, and or Putin.  How do you plan on doing that?

duh, you are called Michael and just changed your flag to Russian.  I'd decline your challenge on the basis that playing you would be as boring as talking to you.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

So you choose to remain ignorant, and use the weak rebuke of attacking and insulting someone.  This is how racism starts.  Some just choose to remain ignorant.

You really don't know what you are talking about. Embarrassing!

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RAU4ever wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
RAU4ever wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
LaakyBoy wrote:

A few thousand people in a city with 7 milions people.....massive protests :-D

If you think it's so easy, why don't you live in an authoritarian state which either jails or kills you for disagreeing with the government? Typical armchair analysis. It's always easy in theory.

How about you start by going to friends to help snowball a march of 1.000.000 people against the war? Right now you're just on chess.com doing nothing to stop your government?

Because it's not my government. I am using the Russian flag for personal reasons. And I just said, it's not easy to be a hero.

Check. I don't agree that it's not easy to be a hero. Heroes are also the people that just did what was needed. Sometimes a hero can be someone who does something really small. I understand full well that it's difficult right now in Russia and that everyone risks a sentence and problems in life if they protest this. However, the Berlin wall also didn't fall on its own. You just need large enough numbers of people who care.

We should definitely ban you due to not protesting against your nation committing drone strikes in Africa, scared little UN protected dutch boy.

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I think you have a perfect right to refuse to play Russian players while their country is brutalising a sovereign country. All those women and children displaced. I’ve seen chess.com’s response and I don’t think it goes far enough at all. They should at the very least allow objectors to abort games without moving, without penalty. Peace to everyone.
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