Read carefully point #2 in the rules.
Note that the red type is used for clarification, of the rules written in black type. Not a separate clause, a clarification.
Also note the dates of the ammendments, so anything that you've seen before (i.e. laptops at the back of the playing area) are unlikely to be allowed from now on.
Failing all that making sense, may I suggest that you contact the tournament director directly. He may be able to explain all this better than we.
Read carefully point #2 in the rules.
Note that the red type is used for clarification, of the rules written in black type. Not a separate clause, a clarification.
Also note the dates of the ammendments, so anything that you've seen before (i.e. laptops at the back of the playing area) are unlikely to be allowed from now on.
The clarifications that were added are now part of the rule. Not that it matters either way. The clarification only address the bathroom for players not playing games. It doesn't address the other areas that are specifically listed in rule #2. Only the bathroom. This changes nothing about what I said.
Nothing in these rules addresses people using a laptop at the back of the playing hall.
#1 bars the use of eletronic devices by a player with an active game.
#2 bars the possession of eletronic devices outside of the playing area or in the bathroom by a player with an active game. And further clarifies that players without an active game can't use them in the bathroom.
#3 only address cellphones.
The tournament hall itself is part of the playing area. Therefore anyone can use an electronic device in the back of the tournament hall who doesn't have an active game.
If it's the same bathroom for players with finished and players with ongoing games, the purpose of the rule should be obvious.
What about the same hallway outside the playing hall that players with finished and ongoing games use? Or the room with the pairing sheets? Or the skittles room? Those are all areas that a player with an active game can go to or walk past. And all of them are places where it wouldn't arouse suspicion if an accomplice was using an electronic device to help his friend. You can sit in the lobby outside of the playing hall on your laptop all day and no one would think anything of it. Because that's what a bunch of other people are doing there. You fit in.
The bathroom is the one place in the entire area that seeing someone using a chess app would arouse the suspicions of everyone in there. You can't exactly sit by the paper towel dispenser with a chess app out and not have someone wonder WTF is going on and go get a TD. Sitting in the stall for 2 hours on my tablet while my friend comes in every 15 minutes and asks for moves through the door wouldn't exactly work either.
I like to see cheaters. Its a sign for me that I am not the silliest person on the world...
Would you rather be asked to see what you are doing on your phone when you are out of the bathroom or in it?
It is a great rule. To many reasons to mention.
Computers are very good many people are very unethical.
Would you rather be asked to see what you are doing on your phone when you are out of the bathroom or in it?
It is a great rule. To many reasons to mention.
Computers are very good many people are very unethical.
Please list 2-3 reasons why this is a great rule.
Hes right. It is a reasonable rule. But a question for you:
What is your problem with this rule? Was it your plan to use your smartphone during you sit on the toilet?
What is your problem with this rule? Was it your plan to use your smartphone during you sit on the toilet?
List 2-3 reasons why this is a reasonable rule.
As to your question, I think to single out players whose games are finished to only bar device use in the bathroom is silly and accomplishes nothing. The bathroom would be the hardest place to achieve some kind of collusion. If you want to make a rule about players whose games are finished, apply it to the entire tournament area. But then that's less effective because it doesn't apply to non-players. You could sit somewhere all day with an engine open and periodically walk around the tournament hall to check on your friend's game to get the current position. So just go ahead and bar electronic devices while any game is in progress, period. You can debate whether or not that's too restrictive on folks and that's fine. But you can't reasonably debate whether or not it would be an effective anti-cheating rule. Banning device use by a player whose game is finished, but only in the bathroom, isn't an effective anti-cheating/collusion rule.
Sapose your game is finished early. A quick slauder. On your way out, you see your friend starting a little late. You recognize your friends opponent and text him a BOLO in the men's room; "your opponent favors the KID, or the Nimzo". He shouldn't get a heads up at the last minute. Sensible rule.
So this rule is saying that even if I leave my phone in my hotel room or car during my game, if I go get it and then head off to subway or somewhere, and stop in the hotel bathroom on the way out, I can be punished in the tournament?
I can understand the rules about using a phone in the bathroom or having a phone with you during a game, but I am allowed to take my posessions with me once my game is over. I'm not going to have it out or visible in the playing area or bathroom, but I don't see any reason I can't have the phone off in my pocket in the bathroom of the hotel that I am staying in, just because some other people are playing a chess tournament.
I don't care if I'm allowed to use a cell phone in the bathroom or not. Why would I want to use a cellphone in the bathroom anyways? But to make a rule about me keeping my phone with me (the wording says you aren't allowed to posess a cellphone) on my own time (not when I'm playing chess) is an overstrectch of their power.
Sapose your game is finished early. A quick slauder. On your way out, you see your friend starting a little late. You recognize your friends opponent and text him a BOLO in the men's room; "your opponent favors the KID, or the Nimzo". He shouldn't get a heads up at the last minute. Sensible rule.
Yeah, this never happens.
They are clearly preventing you taking pictures of your privates.
TRUE DAT!!!
What is your problem with this rule? Was it your plan to use your smartphone during you sit on the toilet?
List 2-3 reasons why this is a reasonable rule.
So trollish. Poster whines about a rule, is given a half dozen or more reasons why people think it is reasonable, then asks for reasons.
lol
No one is listing reasons why it's a good rule, just that they agree with it. Most people aren't even reading the rule properly and are coming up with reasons that the rule doesn't apply to.
Now who is trolling again?
They are clearly preventing you taking pictures of your privates.
TRUE DAT!!!
That's why I take those pictures at the board.
How would you feel about this suggestion?? Put a camera and a mic in the restrooms and let the TD's moniter it?
There's me thinking chess was an honourable game.
It is, just ppl are not.