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dokerbohm

i have tried that and it seems you need premium status to use it -- i have on occasion tried different defenses against it but then my whole game plan is out the window and i can't recover playing all defensive moves till end of game or i get out smarted which usually happens -- i wonder why when i play the bots they never use that play ever -- why when you play a bot thats out to beat you it doesn't use that to end the game with me ----- just wondering why if it such a good opening that they bots don't use it ??

on another note -- i think i will start using 5 min games seems like i think a little ahead yet have a chance to win on time if my opponent is too slow on his moves see you late tonight

BigChessplayer665
dokerbohm wrote:

i do see one thing about ten min games i like --- i seem to make to 50 moves or better in each games except when the @diots use that bishop /queen attack then i lose every time after four moves max - but most reasonable and honorable players beat me at the 40/50 60 moves rate which i like

If it works against you it could also work against your opponents

That means you should try t yourself lol maybe youl learn a good response to it

Kratuu
dokerbohm wrote:

i have tried that and it seems you need premium status to use it -- i have on occasion tried different defenses against it but then my whole game plan is out the window and i can't recover playing all defensive moves till end of game or i get out smarted which usually happens -- i wonder why when i play the bots they never use that play ever -- why when you play a bot thats out to beat you it doesn't use that to end the game with me ----- just wondering why if it such a good opening that they bots don't use it ??

on another note -- i think i will start using 5 min games seems like i think a little ahead yet have a chance to win on time if my opponent is too slow on his moves see you late tonight

You don't need premium to get some use out of the analysis. Just go into one of your games, press the analysis button (the one at the bottom right) then advance through the game with the ">" (next move) button until you get to the part of the game you want to check. Next look at the top right where you'll see the best 3 next moves according to the computer. You can roll your mouse over them and click on them to see them played out on the board.

As for this distrupting your game plan, well that's chess isn't it? It's not reasonable to expect your opponents to make things easy for you and just allow you to play your favourite opening moves just as you like. Disrupting you is exactly what they should do.

As BigChessplayer says maybe you should start playing it to learn how to deal with it.

dokerbohm

well my analysis saids after one game done thats it for the day --- so i don't know what iam doing wrong--

monday morning at 5 min games all losses now back to 100 as usual-- yes i know i should be able to adjust to other players moves -- its just when i play only to be defensive its not what i want to do its just every game they make me be defensive being they are aggressive types -- well since iam at 100 again i can try some odd things for rest of day and i am going back to 3 min games there at least i have a 75/25% loss rate with a chance of winning 1 in 3 instead of it seems 100 % loss rate at other time periods ------------- again thanks for the input .

BigChessplayer665
dokerbohm wrote:

well my analysis saids after one game done thats it for the day --- so i don't know what iam doing wrong--

monday morning at 5 min games all losses now back to 100 as usual-- yes i know i should be able to adjust to other players moves -- its just when i play only to be defensive its not what i want to do its just every game they make me be defensive being they are aggressive types -- well since iam at 100 again i can try some odd things for rest of day and i am going back to 3 min games there at least i have a 75/25% loss rate with a chance of winning 1 in 3 instead of it seems 100 % loss rate at other time periods ------------- again thanks for the input .

I know it's hard to do but try to analyze your own games without looking at stockfish try to find out what you did wrong yourself at least for a few minutes (or what you think you said wrong )

dokerbohm

every once in a while things go lucky for me --- i just played six a row incredibly bad players who basically let me win their blunders where really something -- i didn't really think there where six worse than me players on chess.com -- makes me worried i was playing bots set up to loses-- for what reason i don't know -- but for me to win six in a row -- thats never happened before to me - it reminds of a another game i play spades for years i have played it online at this site and just recently i released the other players i thought where real people are just bots using names from a data base -- my god what is the world coming to ?????

BigChessplayer665
dokerbohm wrote:

every once in a while things go lucky for me --- i just played six a row incredibly bad players who basically let me win their blunders where really something -- i didn't really think there where six worse than me players on chess.com -- makes me worried i was playing bots set up to loses-- for what reason i don't know -- but for me to win six in a row -- thats never happened before to me - it reminds of a another game i play spades for years i have played it online at this site and just recently i released the other players i thought where real people are just bots using names from a data base -- my god what is the world coming to ?????

I mean 100s blunder all the time and hang pieces every other move usually...maybe your just doing something different then you where before

dokerbohm

naw just ran into really bad players all at once -- just lost four in row tonight so back to old ways and regular players at 150 to 200 range still over 150 so i will play till i get below 150 then thats it for a while

dokerbohm

couple more losses in row done till late tonight when meds have to be taken -- it was great while it lasted 188 but now 100 here we come --- maybe i get lucky and run to another bunch of players who play badly like me tonight

dokerbohm

couple wins a couple losses tuesday afternoon still above 150 just barely but still there seems to be right that is 150 is my level rate once i go below that i win once i go above that by too much i lose -- oh well back into the trenches till supper

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dokerbohm

does it work when i win a game and i have 3 mistakes and 12 blunders -- this has happened quite a few times lately -- where i win a game with so many faults -- yet lose a game with 2 mistakes and 2 blunders -- this concept of mistakes and blunders really evades me is a mistake or blunder when the other person falls for the move or makes an even worse move after your blunder or mistake ????? somebody please enlighten me i am lost on this concept

back to the war here -- maybe i will get to 180 by lunch or 149 either way here we go

BigChessplayer665
dokerbohm wrote:

does it work when i win a game and i have 3 mistakes and 12 blunders -- this has happened quite a few times lately -- where i win a game with so many faults -- yet lose a game with 2 mistakes and 2 blunders -- this concept of mistakes and blunders really evades me is a mistake or blunder when the other person falls for the move or makes an even worse move after your blunder or mistake ????? somebody please enlighten me i am lost on this concept

back to the war here -- maybe i will get to 180 by lunch or 149 either way here we go

100s will blunder every other move(usually not 100% or the time ) if you let them lol just like how you sorta just collapse right out of the opening your opponents typically do the same thing

dokerbohm

well near lunch time and 50 /50 play over 180 but just getting to 200 maybe after lunch mind the players are much better at 175 and up then 175 and down for me that is -- yea about that collapsing thing you talk about -- what i am doing major wrong from move 8 on ?????

dokerbohm

well tried a new opening from the forums today--- six times against bots low bots too -never worked once -- tried it against players never worked once -- it shows how its works in forums but thats only when the player does exactly what you want to play -- not what they usually do - off to lunch now a little late but new meds require it -- back after --

BigChessplayer665
dokerbohm wrote:

well tried a new opening from the forums today--- six times against bots low bots too -never worked once -- tried it against players never worked once -- it shows how its works in forums but thats only when the player does exactly what you want to play -- not what they usually do - off to lunch now a little late but new meds require it -- back after --

You can't just repeatedly play the opening you actually have to do the strategy behind it and that's sometimes taking out of prep and taking that free piece ,or attacking ,or defending against opponents threats

BigChessplayer665

In this game https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/108165851692?tab=review&move=12 this isn't a queen attack that's just moving your queen out early

Now the wayward queen attack is different yes your moving your queen out too early but you actually have a threat

All your doing is giving your opponents targets without attacking anything yourself in that game

dokerbohm

yes i see will try something different tomorrow hold my queen in check on the back row longer i guess -- also i am trying that new opening on a ten min game tomorrow if i can get white to try it on -- to see what i am really doing with this type of new opening -- after i try that then i will go back to not taking my queen out till at least move 12 or 15 and resorting to my old opening

tonight i dropped quite a few down to just above 150 again ---- i will never get over 200 again i think------ night all the meds are taking hold now -- see you in the morning

dokerbohm

thats the problem i don't know what i did wrong till i make the wrong move -- reviewing what i did wrong doesn't help i need to know what to do right before i make a mistake.. but thanks for the input anyways -- i find playing against bots with all the help features turned on it helps it shows what to do before i do the wrong thing -- but i can only do a few of those before it gets boring so three is my max but i will try a few of those this morning just to beef up a little

BigChessplayer665
dokerbohm wrote:

thats the problem i don't know what i did wrong till i make the wrong move -- reviewing what i did wrong doesn't help i need to know what to do right before i make a mistake.. but thanks for the input anyways -- i find playing against bots with all the help features turned on it helps it shows what to do before i do the wrong thing -- but i can only do a few of those before it gets boring so three is my max but i will try a few of those this morning just to beef up a little

Reviewing can help just try it it won't work the first time maybe you'll stay stuck but it's still important to review your games maybe if you notice your mistakes after your games during analyse you'll start to realize hem during game