Scandinavian Defense

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Is it effective?
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Yes
And forcing.
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we love you urk I love the Scandinavian for bullet because the first 3-5 moves. can be premoved

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If you play it a lot in blitz, you'll see all sorts of variations

 

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I wouldn't really recommend anyone to play it. However, that's a personal bias, mainly because I have never lost to it OTB and recently got one of my best wins as white against the Scandi, specifically in the Qa5 variation. 

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It's a low theory option for a solid game. A little passive though.

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The ...Qd6 variation is extremely unbalanced and aggressive and so is the Portuguese with the hidden Icelandic Gambit, the mainline...Qa5 variation is similar to the Caro-Kann and often features opposite side castling, and even the ...Qd8 line is playable.
Just don't play the patzer move 3.... Qe6+.
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I actually don't know anything about the Qd6 lines. For a while I think they were out of favor? But I know Carlsen had a few games (at least in rapid, or was one classical?) in the Qd6 lines. Definitely not a joke opening, but not quite in the top tier.

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The Qd6 lines with ...e6 and ...a6 and ...b5 are extremely sharp. I think they're under a theoretical cloud these days and so it's more often played with the solid and boring...c6.
But just as good as the black side of the Ruy Lopez, because why not?
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My opinion of the Scandinavian is so high, I'm adding it to my opening repertoire (the 2...Nf6 variation) as a secondary opening against e4, instead of ...c5. 

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Cherub_Enjel wrote:

My opinion of the Scandinavian is so high, I'm adding it to my opening repertoire (the 2...Nf6 variation) as a secondary opening against e4, instead of ...c5. 



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urk wrote:
The Qd6 lines with ...e6 and ...a6 and ...b5 are extremely sharp. I think they're under a theoretical cloud these days and so it's more often played with the solid and boring...c6.
But just as good as the black side of the Ruy Lopez, because why not?

I'll have to check those out, maybe I'll want to try some time.

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White can really suck the life out of the Portuguese and get equality with Be2 stuff that's hard to win with Black, so you may get tired of the drawish positions.
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There's also a pretty reliable bail out line for white that either goes into an exchange caro or exchange french.

 

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The 2...Nf6 lines have a lot of theory but if you prefer a simple life like me you could consider the simple solution 3. Bb5+.

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That's no bail-out line in my opinion.
White can great attacking chances from those IQP positions.
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I guess that didn't make much sense. I like that answer by White (the IQP) but it's a full-blooded game where Black has his chances. If that's White's best answer to the Scandinavian then why not play it for Black? It's all a matter of taste and both sides have their choices.
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urk wrote:
That's no bail-out line in my opinion.
White can great attacking chances from those IQP positions.

Ok, so I have to confess I used to play 2...Nf6 as my main line against e4.

Probably few people are booked against such rare junk, but here's a line I use. The engine says this is equal, but as black I'm comfortable (and bored) and I think white has zero attacking chances:

 

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The Scandinavian defense is a nice secondary weapon but not really much to employ in regural bases. The Qa5 lines are so well analyzed that White can reach an advantageous position in 18-20 moves by watching a couple of YouTube video lectures when there is no obvious were exactly stands Black's counterplay. The Qd6 lines have a flaw in Shirovs Ne5 idea when the main export of it GM Tiviakov in public claimed that gave up after this one. Don't mention the Bg2 lines. GM Bojkov have made a video in Chessbase explaining how White can get a better position using the fianchetto.

The 2...Nf6 has some pros when it followed from 3...Bg4. With out the Portuguese novelty, it's a poor choice. Recently I read a lot Smerdons Scandinavian. I recommend to everyone want to employ the Scandinavian to devote their time on this. It's a weapon White can't track with out being prepared to play anorthodox and by it own it's enough reason to develop it ideas in your mind.

The minus is that in almost all lines you need to play concrete chess as Black. Forget about sitting back and wait White hit to your wall. Those who like to set up weird tactics they gonna loved it, those who don't better play the Caro Kann than the Qa5-Qd6 Scandinavian.

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dpnorman wrote:

The 2...Nf6 lines have a lot of theory but if you prefer a simple life like me you could consider the simple solution 3. Bb5+.

Yeah, I see this a lot in blitz. It's not trying to refute the opening, but it's a good one.