Scotch vs. Italian
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Bonjour la France
Aug 7, 2025
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#25
#15, no I am not going with these stupid openings. I played these when I was a kid. I don't want to repeat it.
Aug 7, 2025
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#27
#17 okay that's with black. I know that variation. I am talking about white rn.
Aug 7, 2025
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#28
#18 I always destroy White with Black if they play the Haxo gambit. White doesn't get enough compensation for the pawn if Black plays well.
Aug 7, 2025
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#31
Both are great openings. Kasparov brought the Scotch back on the map, can't go wrong with that.
But if you want to play the Scotch and you can't resist placing your bishop on c4, then you should look at the Scotch Gambit 
Aug 7, 2025
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#32
#30. I was gonna do this by myself without computer, but it was too hard to find the solution. After that f3 and just develop normally. What I thought was after that sequence e5 Qxe5 f4 to try and move the queen away which I thought was the only option and I didn’t see f3 while I thought about it.
Italian imo, a lot more variations and gambits there, for eg the Evans and max lange if your opponent allows it through two knights
Italian is way more complex and rich while the scotch is very simple and often leads to pretty dry positions
For long term improvement and the Italian is probably better cuz there’s is going to be much more to learn from the games, the Italian is also an opening you can play at any stage of the rating ladder so you’d never really have to switch up your opening choice
For long term improvement and the Italian is probably better cuz there’s is going to be much more to learn from the games, the Italian is also an opening you can play at any stage of the rating ladder so you’d never really have to switch up your opening choice
Josh11live wrote:
Italian is more forcing leading to less lines to memorize and remember and study and understand. Yeah Italian is better if you don’t like remembering and if you want that cool 0.2 advantage more than the scotch.
Isn't the exact opposite of this true?
The Italian is one of the most complicated openings with a ton of theory in several lines.. The Scotch is pretty straightforward.
Aug 7, 2025
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#37
Fetoxo wrote:
#15, no I am not going with these stupid openings. I played these when I was a kid. I don't want to repeat it.
I just like flank openings.
BUT you should play the Scotch, Italian is easily refuted at the higher levels, while Scotch is still a deadly weapon.
ToastBread_1 wrote:
you should play the Scotch, Italian is easily refuted at the higher levels, while Scotch is still a deadly weapon.
What are you talking about?
This is so false that even the opposite isn't true.
Aug 7, 2025
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#39
magipi wrote:
ToastBread_1 wrote:
you should play the Scotch, Italian is easily refuted at the higher levels, while Scotch is still a deadly weapon.
What are you talking about?
This is so false that even the opposite isn't true.
I'd like to be proven false.
Aug 7, 2025
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#40
ToastBread_1 wrote:
magipi wrote:
ToastBread_1 wrote:
you should play the Scotch, Italian is easily refuted at the higher levels, while Scotch is still a deadly weapon.
What are you talking about?
This is so false that even the opposite isn't true.
I'd like to be proven false.
Since there is no refutation of the Italian, even at the higher levels, your statement is false. GMs still play the Italian.