Should 2|1 and 1|0 be put in different categories?

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Avatar of sadkid2008

Hello everyone,

I was playing live 1|0 chess today against the computer and found that I was easily crushed by a 1600 rated computer, while I would beat a real 1600 player at least 9 times out of 10 in a 1-minute chess match. This is undoubtedly because the computer's rating was inflated by 2|1 games against other players; the computer moves extremely fast (I think a tenth of a second for most moves) in both time controls despite the fact that there is increment in 2|1, so the human player can actually capitalize on the computer's mistakes in this time control. However, in "real" bullet, 1|0 chess, it is much harder to play against this playstyle.

Now, normally, I would simply suggest that the computer take slightly more time to move, or that there were different computers for each time control rather than each category (blitz, bullet, etc.). However, I realized that even for humans, 1|0 and 2|1 chess are quite distinct. In my opinion at least, a rating of 2200 from playing games with 1 minute time control is much more impressive than a rating of 2200 from playing games with a 2|1 time control (probably because most stronger players only play online chess for the faster time controls-- 1|0 is probably a lot less fun OTB). So I think this warrants a distinction between the rating acquired from playing these two time controls. What do you think, my fellow chess players?

Avatar of Deranged

Well on lichess there are 5 different categories (ultrabullet, bullet, blitz, rapid and classical), but chess.com generalises to only 3 categories (bullet, blitz and rapid).

Either way though, 1|0 and 2|1 are going in the same category (bullet). Otherwise, you might as well have a new rating category for every different time control, which would get ridiculous.

Avatar of sadkid2008
Deranged wrote:

Well on lichess there are 5 different categories (ultrabullet, bullet, blitz, rapid and classical), but chess.com generalises to only 3 categories (bullet, blitz and rapid).

Either way though, 1|0 and 2|1 are going in the same category (bullet). Otherwise, you might as well have a new rating category for every different time control, which would get ridiculous.

why?  I think only splitting 1|0 and 2|1 in different categories makes sense as there are a huge amount of 1|0 players

Avatar of wollyhood

I think if you've found a real disparity as to what is, Vs what should be, then you should back yourself and I should  bump your thread as I think ultimately criticism / discourse is essential for robust and fair interfaces : )

Of course if you are Ahead Of Your Time so to speak and no one else supports you, you could just use this knowledge to your own advantage and know that others are losing time unfairly due to the computer time compensations they are choosing to participate in.

Either way back yourself and

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to you, even if there is no tangible reaction / change just know you encouraged good practices.

Can you tell I'm an optimist ? D