I was following the game on Susan Polgar's blog...and she was shocked that Anand had resigned...she mentioned that he could have at least continued play, until Topalov showed he had seen the correct winning line. I agree with her. It seemed premature, especially since Topalov missed the winning 25...Nc4 (as indicated by GM on chess.com).
Should Anand Have Resigned?
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well, playing it our and securing a draw are two diff things. i think he could have played it out, certainly. if nothing else, for all the fans to understand how the game would end. but secure a draw? no way. topalov was going to win that one 100%.
I trust that Anand knew his enemy better than we do. That's my only opinion that I can be confident is accurate.
Maybe Anand is confident enough that he'll pull ahead in the remaining games, and didn't need to worry unnecessarily about this one. Maybe he had a headache. Maybe he saw something that no other soul has seen. Maybe he saw something that wasn't actually there, and his resign was a blunder... maybe Topalov had no idea about it. Who knows, maybe Topalov would have blundered away the ending instead. Anything can happen, right? (wrong - Anand will never win game 8; he's already resigned it)
The only thing I don't doubt is that he didn't think it was worth continuing playing, and is willing to offer his opponent the credit of a well-deserved win.
I'm still rooting for Anand, though.
It was obvious for Anand at that point that Topalov had seen the win with Bg7, g6, Kxg6, Kf6. He could see and feel it also from Topalov's body language and playing speed during the last moves.
, A classic fight but it was definetly winning for topa, I dont think
anand cared much for testing if topa can win it Im sure he knew
topalov couldent mess that up.
ilmago wrote:
It was obvious for Anand at that point that Topalov had seen the win with Bg7, g6, Kxg6, Kf6. He could see and feel it also from Topalov's body language and playing speed during the last moves.
I'm sure you know what the heck your saying, but I sure dont. Move order please.
He could have played on just for the fans' sake, but I'm sure he saw the position as hopeless and not worth the time & effort.
I don't understand why people would resign unless they're just tired of playing a long game like monopoly... I like playing to the checkmate, even if I'm winning or losing, just to see how it happened.
I don't think Anand care about fans endgame education. For a world class GM it was obvious that the game was lost so he resigned
May 4, 2010
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I think Anand make regret not making back to back white games count. Hope im wrong...
jesterville wrote:
since Topalov missed the winning 25...Nc4 (as indicated by GM on chess.com).
I missed the commentary. How is Nc4 winning?
Wouldn't it go:
25 Nc4 Rxd1
26 Kxd1 fxe3
Yeah i was shocked just like the rest of the forum. I guess Anand knew that even if Topalov made a blunder, there was no way Anand could win as he was running short on time. I saw an eventual resignation by Anand but i agree with others that the decision was premature, even though there was no way Anand could have possibly won as he had 12 min on his clock.
Anand should have played on. How is he ever going to learn if he resigns every time he's down a bit?
And it's rude too, he should have given Topalov the opportunity to mate him.
May 4, 2010
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rooperi wrote:
Anand should have played on. How is he ever going to learn if he resigns every time he's down a bit?
And it's rude too, he should have given Topalov the opportunity to mate him.
lol
ArtNJ wrote:
ilmago wrote:
It was obvious for Anand at that point that Topalov had seen the win with Bg7, g6, Kxg6, Kf6. He could see and feel it also from Topalov's body language and playing speed during the last moves.
I'm sure you know what the heck your saying, but I sure dont. Move order please.
ArtNJ, these are the moves of the winning plan for Topalov in the position in which Anand resigned. In the move order given.
By making these moves, white makes sure that the black king has to stay on g8 while white brings his king to f6. Then, white's king is decisively better than black's king, because white's king is now supporting the passed d-pawn while black's king is out of play and can do nothing to stop that.
rooperi wrote:
Anand should have played on. How is he ever going to learn if he resigns every time he's down a bit?
And it's rude too, he should have given Topalov the opportunity to mate him.
Totaly agree.Bad sportmanship...
ilmago wrote:
ArtNJ wrote:
ilmago wrote:
It was obvious for Anand at that point that Topalov had seen the win with Bg7, g6, Kxg6, Kf6. He could see and feel it also from Topalov's body language and playing speed during the last moves.
I'm sure you know what the heck your saying, but I sure dont. Move order please.
ArtNJ, these are the moves of the winning plan for Topalov in the position in which Anand resigned. In the move order given.
By making these moves, white makes sure that the black king has to stay on g8 while white brings his king to f6. Then, white's king is decisively better than black's king, because white's king is now supporting the passed d-pawn while black's king is out of play and can do nothing to stop that.
Thx, I get it now. I didnt realize you were only listing white's moves, which should have been obvious.
Well, I'm not going to try and pretend I have the slightest grasp of the moves
these two Titans are playing in this World Championship. It reminds me of my
high school Calculus class when my teacher said to "prove this theorem" and
I said "Prove it? Newton and Leibniz couldn't prove everything about Calculus,
so what chance do I have?"(not a funny man, he didn't laugh).
Anyway, do you think Anand should have resigned at this point? Wasn't
there a chance Topalov would make a blunder, mistake, or at least an inaccuracy? Many GM's analyzing the game were surprised that he resigned.
So what could have Anand played to secure the draw?