Should chess be a game of refined etiquette?

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Mike_Kalish

Wow....I watched a few minutes. I don't have time now, but looks really interesting. I got to the place where dad was upset with his son for skipping class for a chess tournament.

mrOpenRuy

with staying relevent to the topic, i feel as is trying to go for a stylish win with sacking pieces for a crushing attack or mate has gone away. yall who say ¨oH sTeInItZ rEfUtEd ThAt¨ you should remind yourself you are probally below 1600 and being able to find sacrifices that do those things can still work. But im starting to think that people dont naturally find sacrifices that work hence its much less common

Mike_Kalish
mrOpenRuy wrote:

with staying relevent to the topic,

You're new here, aren't you?

mrOpenRuy

no

mrOpenRuy

well, ¨here¨ can mean multiple things so im assuming you mean to chess.com

Mike_Kalish

I was joking in case you didn't realize it.....suggesting that "staying relevant" was not normal behavior here (chess.com forums) and that only "newbies" would bother trying.

mrOpenRuy

oh ok

pcwildman

That's why we're sending a woman.

Jalex13
long_quach wrote:

 We invented fire. 

No, we didn’t. We perhaps, discovered it, and then learnt how to use it effectively.

Jalex13
long_quach wrote:
theswooze wrote:

Not the same thing. Fire existed before humans. Airplanes didnt.

Airplanes is a pale imitation of a bird.

In essence, humans did invent the airplane. But they did not invent the concept of flying. It was learnt from birds and then the science was used to construct an airplane. Still fundamentally wrong in logic.

Hoffmann713
Sadlone ha scritto:

Chess is a war

A war game, not a war...

Powertulpe
long_quach wrote:

Use in a sentence.

I practice bu gei gi do.

"We're moving on up . . . to the East Side . . . we finally got a piece of the pie."

Now I'm intrigued ... is that actually a real way of how a Chinese person would express themselves, I mean, would it be understood the same way you're describing it?

Powertulpe

Cool. 'Bugei-Gido' ... it's like saying something in Latin, it makes it sound really sophisticated all of a sudden.

Runner-Five
Dzindo07 wrote:

The way something is commonly portrayed does not always equate to reality. While in the past you did have cases of the gentlemens game of chess between two sharply dressed aristocrats in a fancy ballroom, a more likely image would be two factory workers half drunk playing chess on their break. Of course nothing stops you from enjoying the game like it is portrayed in popular culture, it's just something that is not anymore realistic today than it was 200 years ago.

Why would the factory workers be half drunk on their break? You can't hold down hard manual jobs if you're drunk at work. And never could. When my Dad worked in the factory he had a mate from Jamaica who sang arias, and yes, a bunch of the guys did play chess on their break. If anyone had been drunk around heavy machinery, or even notably hung over they would have been fired on the spot.

Kyobir
long_quach wrote:
Powertulpe wrote:
long_quach wrote:

Use in a sentence.

I practice bu gei gi do.

"We're moving on up . . . to the East Side . . . we finally got a piece of the pie."

Now I'm intrigued ... is that actually a real way of how a Chinese person would express themselves, I mean, would it be understood the same way you're describing it?

Yes. Japanese is Chinese. Kanji = Han Writing.

Then how do you say 東方

Kyobir

also I think it would be pretty funny if chess was like Call of Duty

Runner-Five

The Chinese value scholars above all other kinds of people.

It's a piece on the board. 士 scholar (Vizier)

They invented the Confucian civil service test. The world's first S.A.T.

I think my kind of people can be leaders in society, again.

I think the bishops are based on the viziers originally? Advisors to the kings? Entertainingly, in Northern Ireland where I live, when I explain the bishops' colour blindness, everyone immediately gets it when I say they're sectarian and can't even see their colleague, let alone cooperate with them. 'Ah, bigots then,' someone I was showing the moves to said. 'Makes sense.' Cultural outlooks definitely impact the way we engage with chess.

fhoch3

Its over

Runner-Five
long_quach wrote:
Runner-Five wrote:T

I think the bishops are based on the viziers originally? Advisors to the kings? Entertainingly, in Northern Ireland where I live, when I explain the bishops' colour blindness,

No and yes.

If you compare Western Chess with Chinese Chess, the positions of the Bishops are the Elephants in Chinese Chess. Bishops were originally elephants.

And yes. Bishops are advisers to Kings. And they are color blind.

A classical example. Star Trek. Captain Kirk is the King. Mr. Spock and Dr. McCoy are the Viziers, the Bishops. Mr. Spock personified and act as a spokesman for Captain Kirk's intellect. Dr. McCoy speaks for Captain Kirk's feelings. Each is half correct. Captain Kirk must decide who to listen to and when.

An exception that came into my mind is All Our Yesterdays. Spock is turning into an emotional irrational ancestor of his, and Dr. McCoy has to be the logical one.

What a great analogy! Can't wait to share that with my Trekkie son.

Kyobir

The elephant was an Indian idea