Should I just give up chess forever?

Sort:
Avatar of shadowcat53

Stop playing Bullet it's too frustrating and intense .

Avatar of Inexorable88

Bullet is of course very irritating but you must recognize that chess isn't the problem. If it wasn't chess, it'd be how much money you make, or how in shape you are, or how intelligent you think you are. Your ego and your expectations are the problem. 

Avatar of RichColorado

. . . YES!

Avatar of regitche
There was a period of time when I was in the same situation as you. Bullet doesn't really help your chess, so I recommend that you play longer time controls. I myself first started playing 3m, then 5m, and now I only play 5m or 15m games.
Avatar of Ziggy_Zugzwang

I think it's a case of moderation. You seem to always be playing but suggest giving up forever. There is a common dominator here that we can all relate to...

Perhaps some perspective as well. Chess is not "clever" or a benchmark of our cleverness.

Look at other things to do. Perhaps getting physically fitter is one suggestion while you are still young....

I regard bullet as "space invaders" not chess and judging by some that play it seems to be becoming the hooliganism hangout of a few trashtalkers...

Avatar of MagikKnight21

bro dont quit chess

im probably the worst chess player in the world

i was one of the bottom on the ladder in my chess class

but did i curse at the people who beat me?

NO(only under my breath)

BUT DONT QUUUUUUUUUUIT

Avatar of kill-the-wabbitt

I am not an expert but your cry for help is moving, so I want to offer you advice even though this is not really my field, someone has to try and help (I think the others who have replied seem to feel the same way - you have friends here, even if we don't know you and will never meet you).

Talk to someone about how you feel. It will help you get at least a little perspective.

If you are addicted then giving up will not be easy, although ultimately that is a decision you may have to take - but maybe it won't actually be necessary: perhaps you should try to substitute longer and longer forms of chess, at least to get away from the current habit.

Try to gradually play longer and longer time controls - start with 2 mins and 1 sec (which is still bullet) and then try to move up to 3, 0 then 3, 2 then 5 minutes. Then 10 minutes.

Make a list of the reasons why you play chess. Do not show it to anyone, and be honest with yourself. If it is to appear clever, then admit that fact, even if it will never be shared with anyone else.

Make a list of the things you enjoy about chess. Again, be completely honest - no-one else is going to see it.

Make a list of the reasons why you do not enjoy chess.

Make a list of the reasons you do enjoy chess. If one of those reasons is related to improvement, then go on to make a list of possible goals, and the steps necessary to get to those goals (15 mins per day on tactics trainer, a chapter per week of a good chess book, participate in a proper tournament - that kind of thing.

If, by this stage, you have managed to switch to slightly longer time controls, then take stock of the analysis you have undertaken in the steps above, and then ask yourself the question: "do I want to give up chess?" If the answer is still yes, it should be possible to contemplate doing so if you have graduated to longer time controls. The answer might be "no" though.

At this point, however you feel about the question, talk to someone. It will help. Talking to someone is the most important advice I have offered in this rather long list. If you follow none of the rest of the advice, do at least talk to someone, even if it is a helpline of some sort.

Avatar of TheAnalyst7
kill-the-wabbit wrote:

I am not an expert but your cry for help is moving, so I want to offer you advice even though this is not really my field, someone has to try and help (I think the others who have replied seem to feel the same way - you have friends here, even if we don't know you and will never meet you).

Talk to someone about how you feel. It will help you get at least a little perspective.

If you are addicted then giving up will not be easy, although ultimately that is a decision you may have to take - but maybe it won't actually be necessary: perhaps you should try to substitute longer and longer forms of chess, at least to get away from the current habit.

Try to gradually play longer and longer time controls - start with 2 mins and 1 sec (which is still bullet) and then try to move up to 3, 0 then 3, 2 then 5 minutes. Then 10 minutes.

Make a list of the reasons why you play chess. Do not show it to anyone, and be honest with yourself. If it is to appear clever, then admit that fact, even if it will never be shared with anyone else.

Make a list of the things you enjoy about chess. Again, be completely honest - no-one else is going to see it.

Make a list of the reasons why you do not enjoy chess.

Make a list of the reasons you do enjoy chess. If one of those reasons is related to improvement, then go on to make a list of possible goals, and the steps necessary to get to those goals (15 mins per day on tactics trainer, a chapter per week of a good chess book, participate in a proper tournament - that kind of thing.

If, by this stage, you have managed to switch to slightly longer time controls, then take stock of the analysis you have undertaken in the steps above, and then ask yourself the question: "do I want to give up chess?" If the answer is still yes, it should be possible to contemplate doing so if you have graduated to longer time controls. The answer might be "no" though.

At this point, however you feel about the question, talk to someone. It will help. Talking to someone is the most important advice I have offered in this rather long list. If you follow none of the rest of the advice, do at least talk to someone, even if it is a helpline of some sort.

 Thanks man, you've given me lots to think about. I will do this - thank you for writing this

Avatar of PLAYtoWINtheGAME

And stop complaining then try to play IM rensch in a 1/0. What is it? do you wanna stop playing or do you wanna play till you drop dead?

Avatar of FalconFutura

@TheAnalyst7 - here's a few thoughts:

I used to hate chess, too. The reason for this is not the mental strain... It was winning vs. losing.

You seem to have a very nice rating, although it seems you've played a much higher percentage of bullet than long chess. I don't know how that percentage translates to over the board play for you, but I imagine you still play a lot of blitz/bullet in real life, even if you do play tournaments.

Bullet and Blitz are great ways to burn out the mind playing chess; the focus is rarely (unless one's first name is Maxime, Magnus, or Hikaru) on creativity and imagination, but rather on the result. I lost, now I must crush my opponent three times in succession to justify myself. There's no surprise that we blunder in bullet and blitz; things happen fast and there is rarely time to tactically verify an idea that "flashes" in the mind. The mind begins to conceive the "common" ideas; it gets stuck in a rut of obviousness and the real imagination which fuels higher level chess thinking begins to die. This may not be true for all players, but I imagine it is far more true than most people are willing to admit.

Consider Kramnik. He plays mainly for the joy of idea creation. (Maybe he does care about winning in a small way, and I really doubt that anyone can play chess entirely without caring about the result or feeling pleased with a win. But less is probably better)

I personally don't care about winning, even though I do win a high percentage of my games. I enjoy the thrill of analysis and raw creation that comes in double-edged or positional situations. I like playing longer time controls so I can see more of the possibilities which lie under the surface. I'm no longer pedantic, I'm inspired and imaginative. You know you have transcended to this level when it no longer matters if you lose on time in a won position after you played the amazing combination. If only the time control had been an hour and not thirty minutes, you'd have won. And who cares? Its only a matter of stupid pride. Your opponent will likely not bother to find out how he allowed the tactics, but rather consider himself ahead because he won. But this is where I go back and I study it. I find out what he could have done, and what I could have done. I think about my approach at those moments. Where are my holes? And I get better and let the losers go on being average.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say your problem is not chess, but your approach to chess. Let go of the stress. Sit back and enjoy the game. Obviously you already do it well enough to appreciate how much it can be art. Some of us can be Alekhines or Kasparovs, and others can be Capablancas and Kramniks. Find out which one you would prefer to be.

Avatar of kill-the-wabbitt

Reading my post again, it is a little clumsy and repeats itself, but the idea is to get you to a point where, as suggested by FalconFutura's excellent advice above, you can  have a reasonable chance of making the decision to enjoy the game again. In summary: break out of the current habit with behaviour that is close enough to what you do now to give you a chance to break free, then use some tools to objectively analyse where you are and where you want to be. (Whether that is to be completely free of the game or, hopefully, to set out to enjoy it). I hadn't realised you had quite such a high rating and you say you are at school, so you must have potential and it would be a shame to just discard all that. Good luck and I hope at the end of this you are still playing chess but enjoying it!

Again though, just make sure you talk to someone about how you are feeling, especially if you are feeling down.

Avatar of wigginssavedbasketball
I lost 3 times in a row and I raged
Avatar of Alsikep

Maybe try something different-a girl/boy friend who doesnt play chess. At least for a time.

Avatar of 1NF1DEL
I have played you, and yes, you should quit.
Avatar of TheAnalyst7
kill-the-wabbit wrote:

Reading my post again, it is a little clumsy and repeats itself, but the idea is to get you to a point where, as suggested by FalconFutura's excellent advice above, you can  have a reasonable chance of making the decision to enjoy the game again. In summary: break out of the current habit with behaviour that is close enough to what you do now to give you a chance to break free, then use some tools to objectively analyse where you are and where you want to be. (Whether that is to be completely free of the game or, hopefully, to set out to enjoy it). I hadn't realised you had quite such a high rating and you say you are at school, so you must have potential and it would be a shame to just discard all that. Good luck and I hope at the end of this you are still playing chess but enjoying it!

Again though, just make sure you talk to someone about how you are feeling, especially if you are feeling down.

thanks man for this

Avatar of Iamabadplayer

yes and get laid while you are at it

Avatar of PLAYtoWINtheGAME

1NF1DEL is a bully, makes him feel better

Avatar of RichColorado

YOU WERE NEVER INTENDING TO QUIT!

JUST BS

Avatar of ChastityMoon
TheAnalyst7 wrote:

I just get so mad when I lose. I mean naturally, it's only natural to lose every now and then but it drives me crazy. I just want to end it - Chess is really making me hate many aspects of my life but at the same time I'm so addicted to coming home from school, and playing bullet for hours upon hours. I just hate the game so much but I'm addicted. It's making me such an unhappy person. I don't see my family as much anymore, I don't talk to people, I don't have any friends, I have nothing. The game makes me feel to empty and alone - I hate it. 

 

It's just chess means a lot to me, I wanted to see what my fellow chess players have to say

So what's the problem?  Your life sounds pretty normal for the average slacker in today's digital everything world.    The craving, the gnawing need for instant gratification is today's coin of the realm.      You just need to realize that someone who is wired as you describe faces a grim  future.  Once you accept the sorry hand you've been dealt, you can direct your attention to some  meager goal that will nonetheless raise your self esteem, even if only slightly.  The other recommendation would be find an arterial in one of your legs to severe and get on with whatever comes next in your existence.

 

I hope this has been helpful.   Actually no I don't, it would be a foolish hope. 

Avatar of rsvan

think of the purpose of your life,think of the meaning of your life, take your time to think it,hopely you'll get the answer to make yourself better...