Should I just give up ?

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JumpyKnight2007

no dont quit . chess is fun. I get so angry when i lose some stupid game i wanna smash the screen but i still play unless im grounded for swearing at my opponent after losing haha evil.png

penandpaper0089

It looks like you're just missing captures in your games. Lets look at one:

 

Looking for threats, captures and checks is a key to seeing tactics and getting better at them. If you do this in your games and during puzzles you will improve. There are also some problems in the opening. You generally want to develop all your pieces so that they can participate in the game. Here are some tips on how to play in the opening of the game:

http://exeterchessclub.org.uk/content/ten-rules-opening

Rules have exceptions but following these should keep you safe in the opening most of the time. As you improve you'll start to learn about when it's ok to break such rules. Here's a good lecture by GM Yasser Seirawan on the opening:

Lorgen

Having failed at the game longer than you can imagine I would say quit if your was to be good. If you simply seek a way to pass time, keep playing.

Sqod

Consider this: I just finished writing a book on chess that I'm trying to get published, and the sole dedication in the beginning of the book is to a friend of mine who spent many hours playing chess with me when we were young. He was lousy and always would be lousy, but he enjoyed playing so much that he kept on, and he was such a great guy that he ended up having a book dedicated to him, which is something most of us will never have. Those were also great times we spent together. The morals I would get from this are: (1) Do what you love doing, even if you're no good at it (just don't expect to make money from it); (2) Being a happy person can beat being a successful person. (3) Being a good person can beat being a successful person.

thegreat_patzer

Games are, i think, not meant to be permanently and persistantly instantly won.

 

Imagine if suddenly your favorite vid game was just Won and all those cartoon opponents died with no trace or a fight and with no time consuming quest to get to the next level?

 

would anyone play monopoly if every one  instantly (and in every game) had hotels on every property on the board?   you play Poker and they hand you the top prize... "Oh we didn't see it was YOU mr Smith, here is everyone's else life savings for your idle amusement"

 

where's the fun in this?   Give me another game where you commonly Just expect a effortless win- and take joy in quashing someone's dreams of a victory for themselves with no risk of failure or uncertainty

 

Perhaps you can play little kid basketball with toddlers.  ?

that would be a sure win.  does it help you understand how cheap it would be??

 

IMHO

DragonBallKai

Yeah, man . Grow up and stop crying, practice your tactics, buy some chess software tactics like I did with my savings of selling chocolates in the school. I dont expect to get even more than 1500 in my life time because one day I will have to work and go to university , cause no one in my country makes a living from chess, and I live in Europe, go figure nerd.

zoomdba
DragonBallKai wrote:

Quit this game before it is too late, I stopped hanging out with my friends, stopped ice hockey practice and I dont want to socialize, even I am lazy to do my homework at school because I want to play chess, watch youtube videos about  chess and learn opening with schoolmates.

 

I am addicted to the game and mom knows it so she is gonna call the pastor of the church to make me consider quitting chess, sometimes she confiscates my laptop, but I go to the library to play there or on my phone in the bathroom.

 

Haaa .  For real ?

 

zoomdba

Thanks for all the useful replies.  It is not that it is not fun.  I do not get to play live chess, and I don't really know anyone that plays.  So I have no reference as to whether I will lose every single time, or win once in a while.  I should play with more people on chess.com it looks like.  

DragonBallKai

I bought chess tactics for beginners

 

I started in around 500 rating. I think it helps to practice some tactics on the phone while you wait in a line or something.

TadrodderTots

I  have a friend who to took group golf lessons - wiffle ball off mats in a gym - and went to the driving range.  But she'd never played a round of golf because "only people who play golf well play on public golf courses.

Clearly, she'd never been around a public golf course.

So I bought her a putter and surprised her by taking her to a local golf course.   

She played about as badly as most other people on the course.  To her credit she didn't play slow.  And she had fun.

Her biggest revelation came while watching other people slice, duck hook, miss 3' putts, need two shots out of a bunker:  I belong out here with these duffers.
_

BronsteinPawn
thegreat_patzer escribió:

the short answer I suppose must be yes.

cuz, if your were enjoying yourself; you would not be all in the dumps about your rating. 

 

there are Millions (per chess.com) of chess players near 1000 and most are Not giving it up.  but you find it unbearable.... so I think you are NOT enjoying yourself.

 

and I don't see why a person should make themselves miserable playing a game in their free time

I AGREE

Pyotrvich
RCMorea wrote: 

4)  Computer on easiest setting is something I would never even attempt.  Playing computers is a complete waste of time.  They are godlike strong, and even on "beginner" they play nothing like beginners.  They play like god, who purposely gives you two pieces, and then crushes you anyway--quite simply nothing like humans.

 

I would like to second and emphasize this point.

Playing a computer, set to any level, is a complete and total waste of time. 

Computers don't know how humans blunder because you can't explain to a computer what a natural looking blunder looks like. A computer doesn't understand, it just computes. Computers calculate the most forcing way to victory. When you win a game against a computer you only win because it played bad moves on purpose. I don't know if you only use this site for tactics and do your playing somewhere else, but in order to become a better chess player you have to actually play chess. Against real, flesh and blood opponents. 

 

I also notice on your tactics stats that you do a huge amount of tactics, but you never spend more that a few moments on each. The day before yesterday you spent 191 minutes doing tactics, and in that time you attempted a staggering 677 different puzzles, meaning that on average you spent no more than 17 seconds per puzzle. This is simply not the way to train tactics if you're a beginner. It's not a race to see how fast you can blitz out the first move that comes to mind. Spending that little time on a puzzle is something you only do if the solution is obvious to you. In chess you need to learn to walk before you can run.

 

Try instead to shorten your tactics sessions and do fewer per session. I would try doing maybe ~8 tactics in 30 minutes, instead of 30 tactics in 8 minutes. Spend some time to make sure you are seeing all of the pieces in the position and calculate some lines. Really strain yourself to see one more move ahead than you usually do before making the first move. The point is to calculate the forcing variation to the end before making a move. If you're stuck on a tactic and have no idea what the motif is, spend at least five minutes trying to find it before making your guess. After each session go over the ones you got wrong and try to work out why you missed it.

 

BronsteinPawn
Pyotrvich escribió:
RCMorea wrote: 

4)  Computer on easiest setting is something I would never even attempt.  Playing computers is a complete waste of time.  They are godlike strong, and even on "beginner" they play nothing like beginners.  They play like god, who purposely gives you two pieces, and then crushes you anyway--quite simply nothing like humans.

 

I would like to second and emphasize this point.

Playing a computer, set to any level, is a complete and total waste of time. 

Computers don't know how humans blunder because you can't explain to a computer what a natural looking blunder looks like. A computer doesn't understand, it just computes. Computers calculate the most forcing way to victory. When you win a game against a computer you only win because it played bad moves on purpose. I don't know if you only use this site for tactics and do your playing somewhere else, but in order to become a better chess player you have to actually play chess. Against real, flesh and blood opponents. 

 

I also notice on your tactics stats that you do a huge amount of tactics, but you never spend more that a few moments on each. The day before yesterday you spent 191 minutes doing tactics, and in that time you attempted a staggering 677 different puzzles, meaning that on average you spent no more than 17 seconds per puzzle. This is simply not the way to train tactics if you're a beginner. It's not a race to see how fast you can blitz out the first move that comes to mind. Spending that little time on a puzzle is something you only do if the solution is obvious to you. In chess you need to learn to walk before you can run.

 

Try instead to shorten your tactics sessions and do fewer per session. I would try doing maybe ~8 tactics in 30 minutes, instead of 30 tactics in 8 minutes. Spend some time to make sure you are seeing all of the pieces in the position and calculate some lines. Really strain yourself to see one more move ahead than you usually do before making the first move. The point is to calculate the forcing variation to the end before making a move. If you're stuck on a tactic and have no idea what the motif is, spend at least five minutes trying to find it before making your guess. After each session go over the ones you got wrong and try to work out why you missed it.

 

Oh god, go to sleep kid. Playing human opponents will always be better than playing computers but playing computers isnt a waste of time. 

Pyotrvich
BronsteinPawn wrote:

Oh god, go to sleep kid. Playing human opponents will always be better than playing computers but playing computers isnt a waste of time. 

 

Crawl back in your cave, troll.

havelock3

My two cents: Don't play against computers. They will mess you up. Play humans only. Also play some daily chess as well as live rapid so you have time to think more deeply about positions. Don't play bullet or blitz if you can help it. Don't worry about your rating. Don't be in a rush. Learn from your losses. Chess is hard. It takes time to get better. You have to think long term. Try to work on all aspects of the game. Tactics are fundamental but there is more to chess. 

santiagomagno15

Hi, maybe its becouse you have bad habits at chess, Im doing some free lessons if you want

kindaspongey

"... One of the last things you should do, except if you are a masochist, is to play games against your computer. ..." - GM John Nunn (2007)

penandpaper0089

Playing against engines is useful for training in endgames and other positions that you should be able to win or draw by force. You can set it to play specific positions here.

BronsteinPawn
Pyotrvich escribió:
BronsteinPawn wrote:

Oh god, go to sleep kid. Playing human opponents will always be better than playing computers but playing computers isnt a waste of time. 

 

Crawl back in your cave, troll.

Ill crawl into my troll refugium when you refute my argument. Since we know that is not possible why dont you just admit that piece of your comment was wrong so we can go to the nearest "пивная" and sing the march of the Defenders of Moscow together.

BronsteinPawn
kindaspongey escribió:

"... One of the last things you should do, except if you are a masochist, is to play games against your computer. ..." - GM John Nunn (2007)

"That is one of the most retarded things Nunn could have ever said..." - Lord BronsteinPawn (2017)