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pfren
1random wrote:
Where do you go after this?

I won't resign, for sure. 11...Nxd4 12.Bxd4 de4 13.g5 may give white a little something, but 11...e5 is now perfectly good.



pfren

Did you actually read the analysis?

I already said that 17.Ka1? is a big mistake, and on your 17.g5, 17...Ng4! gives black a good game (Houdini claims equality).

And- noone claimed an advantage for Black after 10.Kb1, but then white is unable to claim even a minuscule advantage after 10...Rb8!.

The main line is too theroretical- white has a minuscule edge, which is quite manageable, but Dvoiry's 10.Qe1!? (the move played by Caruana) is quite poisonous. Again, white's advantage is very small, but very safe, and Black has to defend carefully to survive, without many chances for active counterplay.

On top of all that, Black has quite a few problems to solve in the 9.g4! line (instead of 9.0-0-0). This line is very topical currently, there's no point posting analysis.

pfren

Everybody's WANTING to get a better position out of the opening, and this is quite different from EXPECTING something.

pfren
hessmaster wrote:

after 9.g4 Bxg4!

It seems that you read too much Spraggett.

All three logical moves (Bg1, Nxc6, Nb3) give white the better game, but the latter is the easiest to handle. Spraggett says Black has no problems with the variation 9.g4 Bxg4 10.fg4 Nxg4 11.Nb3 d5 12.ed4 Bxc3!? in mind, but this works only partially.

Objectively, the best move is 11.Bg1, but it is quite tricky to handle.

pfren
Powerlevel_9001 wrote:

Kevin Spraggett wrote a book called Starting Out: The Sicilian Dragon for Everyman Chess, pfren thought you read it lol

The book is by IM Andy Martin, I believe.

I was referring to GM Spraggett's blog, where he claims that 9...Bxg4 is a good move (no real analysis, though).

http://kevinspraggett.blogspot.gr/2011/09/monday.html

GarySlegg
pfren wrote:
Powerlevel_9001 wrote:

Kevin Spraggett wrote a book called Starting Out: The Sicilian Dragon for Everyman Chess, pfren thought you read it lol

The book is by IM Andy Martin, I believe.

I was referring to GM Spraggett's blog, where he claims that 9...Bxg4 is a good move (no real analysis, though).

http://kevinspraggett.blogspot.gr/2011/09/monday.html

David Vigorito has done one on the Dragon for the Chess Development series by Everyman - it focuses on defending against the Yugoslav attack.

pfren

I do have Vigorito's book. He is actually offering a repertoire for Black, not a complete Yugoslav Attack survey, and on this line he hays nothing more than 11.Nb3 "and white is better".

This game is fascinating. White is totally winning until move 27, when he allows Black a spectacular tactic.



patricklarrye

wow.. this is very tough for black!!

Providence_player

 I understood "the bind" was'nt suppose to be good against the Accelerated Dragon?? 

Arfinwulf

Hear the dragon roar and it echo throuought White's worst nightmare.

Cheers,
Aerfinwulf, administrator of Dragon Chaos Society
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JairoPCJr

At high level, the yugoslav, well played, kills the dragon and, the best possible for the dragon player is to draw.But, if the dragon player has higher rating than he could have a good advantage using all the sharpness in his favor...

blasterdragon

i like the hyper-accelerated dragon its rich with tactics

pfren
blasterdragon wrote:

i like the hyper-accelerated dragon its rich with tactics

8...Nxe4 is hardly best. The game may be objectively equal after 9.Nxe4 d5 10.Nxc6 bc6 11.Bd3 de4 12.Bxe4, but it's easier to play as white.

Black should simply be satisfied by the fact white unprovokedly castled short, and play 8...d6 with a good game. So yes, 8.Bb3 is more accurate, when 8...a5!? is interesting (and messy).

Black should play 7...Qa5 to "force" white castling short.

Gizmo

whites move f3  what if f4 instead  seems very aggresive move

ChessbrotherJon