At the end of the day, it's just a game of chess.
You can't control your opponent's behaviour, so don't worry about it too much. If they're rude, they're rude, what can we do about it? Just take it on the chin and give them an example of how to play with etiquette and respect.
Most of all, don't let them diminish your enjoyment of the game.
It also says C) You beat me, now I'm going to waste your time out of spite.
Agreed, in some (thankfully rare, cases) there is nothing else your opponent can be saying. This is most unsporting when playing in a no vacation tournament. An opponent once made me push the last remaining pawn all the way up the board, chasing one step behind with his king, then attempted to head around my king while I queened, then made me play out the mate, taking almost 3-days for each move. When this happens, just set a bunch of conditional moves. The second they realise that your involvement is over, they'll resign. Setting the lines can sometimes be a decent practice in thoroughness and accuracy, and certainly more fun than the alternative.
Did this ever happen to anyone:
Your opponent (higher rated) has realised that your rating is on the rise, keeps on playing a position that is beneath their rating not to understand, then, the second your rating exceeds their's by about 50 pts, they immediately resign.
I read once that Marshall (at least I think it was Marshall), was known for setting traps in his games. He would continue to set traps even in loosing positions with the intent of salvaging at least half of a point (what we call a swindle today). You should continue to play and seek a plan to split the point if possible. Resignations only take place when you can see no way out, or you do not wish to expend the effort necessary to continue.
There is a player on this site who is a GOD of stalemate traps. He's rated only about 1250 (TB) but the number of times he almost had a half point off me... and I learnt very quickly to watch out for him. Some of his tournament games he has linked me, against higher rated players, who were bitching for a resign when heavily ahead on material, who walked into a stalemate or a draw by repitition, are simply beautiful. The looks that must have crossed their faces!
Have you ever considered being down a rook, queen, 2rooks+a bishop means an automatic lost (unless you sac'd for a reason)?
My opponent is really taking the mick if he's promoted one of his pawns to a rook.
Its when you underpromote to a knight for an instant check (but not mate) that you know you have too much breathing room. ;)
But no, I've never been down 3 rooks myself.
I have been asked yet again to resign by an opponent rated 400pts higher than me, i know im struggling in the games but do I not have the right to finish the games by forcing him to checkmate me? Yes im losing the games but I don't think that gives him the right to tell me it's painful watching me play. I am still learning the bloody game and trying to improve. I recently played a guy rated 2400 who complimented me and gave me tips on how to improve which I greatly appreciated. He knew he was going to win the games but yet didnt feel the need to criticize. Its basic manners I suppose. I don't give up games easily and don't expect others to do so either.
when the guy asked you to resign, did you take the opportunity to civily tell him your situation? did you dialogue with him about your status and intentions in this game and as a player in general? i'm sure there is fault to be found in his asking--although i see why he'd want it. but it seems like most civil chess players would be open to a discussion and open to the idea of playing a game out for the sake of experience.
that being said, the experience of getting your ass kicked doesn't do much for most people, but if you really think you're getting something from it--simply tell your opponent that you recognize that the game is lost and you'd like to see it out to the end. and even though he may not completely agree with this notion, most people would be more willing to comply if you communicate with them than if you just turn the mute on and play it out in defiance.
at least that's what i think.
Oh, come on, Flags. Next, you're going to ask if he offered to hold hands.
not at all. but getting your knickers in a wad doesn't do any good. just be cool about it and talk. what's the problem? or take it personally and get all butt-hurt and stall and fight dick with dick. there's enough of that shit going on. i think my way might work better.
The problem with asking your opponent with why they wish to play on is that you are basically trying to find out if they want a demonstration or if they are trying for a swindle; it's therefore unsporting. Pay attention, until its a done deal. But against a clearly better player, I just prefer to admit to them I need the practice in the position, without being queried. They're usually very helpful after that, and I think it takes the pressure of them a little.
It never hurts to be a good sport from both sides of the board. If no money is invovled what are a few points. Ive had to resign many games to lower rated players because sometimes i just play bad and they play good.Nobody wins with all the bs involved with prolonging a lost game. I choose to spend my energy on the next game.
The problem with asking your opponent with why they wish to play on is that you are basically trying to find out if they want a demonstration or if they are trying for a swindle; it's therefore unsporting. Pay attention, until its a done deal. But against a clearly better player, I just prefer to admit to them I need the practice in the position, without being queried. They're usually very helpful after that, and I think it takes the pressure of them a little.
i'm not suggesting asking your opponent why they want to play on. not at all. i'm suggesting doing exactly what you said. tell the guy beating you that you're trying to learn and get better and you'd like to see how he play it out for the experience. almost everyone on chess.com (exept maybe Suggo and saidh) would be cool about that.
It never hurts to be a good sport from both sides of the board. If no money is invovled what are a few points. Ive had to resign many games to lower rated players because sometimes i just play bad and they play good.Nobody wins with all the bs involved with prolonging a lost game. I choose to spend my energy on the next game.
"A good sport from both sides of the board." That's the whole of it right there. I've pulled back positions in endgame that I would have resigned, being a rook down eg, and I've only played on because my opponent didn't respond to a simple "hi, good luck" at the start.
Conversely, I resigned a game recently, where I was winning (about 2.5 pawns, according to later CPU analysis) and I made a blunder which was not fatal, but tipped things to about 1 pawn his way in the ending. We both agreed afterwards it had looked drawish, but he had the only winning chances. I believed with effort I could have held the draw... it just required accuracy and stamina. He was lower rated, by over 100 pts. Because my better chess had slowly built the advantage, but my carelessness had thrown it on the spot, I felt he had played the better game, and deserved some of my points. Neither of us had said "gl" at the start, but partway through I had apologised for slow play and he had said "no problem, I'm enjoying this game". I have to wonder how much of my perception of the position was shaped by this simple response.
1 thing I have noticed on this site compared to others is that people are hard pressed to resign. This drives me bonkers. If you're beat then resign. Especially if its painfully obvious. I'll never say this to a player because I do consider that rude. They have every right to keep playing. But I am thinking it.
If the game is hopelessly lost then you're just wasting my time. I'm not here to teach you how to play a lost game. Of course there are a couple of reasons to not get too worked up about this. If I blunder really badly during a game I would expect them to play longer since I might do it again and they could win or draw. Also, they may just not realize that they are 100% beat. In fact, I'm in a game right now that looks hopeless but I'm not sure yet. When I am sure then I will resign. Right now I'm hoping to find a draw though.
Recently I kind of asked my opponent to resign. But the situation was a bit different.
I keep "Auto-win on Time" off, because I want to reserve the option of not claiming a win on time. I was very clearly winning a game, and this guy ran out of time. After a few days with no moves, I told him that I'm going to wait for a week or so, and them I'll claim a win. And if he does not want to play, please resign. He moved.
Either way, this doesn't bother me at all. I saw it as a won game anyway.
Besides, I'm a beginner and my endgame sucks. I'm happy to play both lost and won endgames at this point, if they are at least a bit interesting. If I have clearly lost the game and still wish to play it through, I might ask my opponent if he's willing to play. If not, I'll resign.
I'm the same with endgames, after all you get to practice openings every time, right, but often no ending. You have to remember this as a stronger player than your opponent, they must see an ending through a few times too before they can just "call it"
I have been asked yet again to resign by an opponent rated 400pts higher than me, i know im struggling in the games but do I not have the right to finish the games by forcing him to checkmate me? Yes im losing the games but I don't think that gives him the right to tell me it's painful watching me play. I am still learning the bloody game and trying to improve. I recently played a guy rated 2400 who complimented me and gave me tips on how to improve which I greatly appreciated. He knew he was going to win the games but yet didnt feel the need to criticize. Its basic manners I suppose. I don't give up games easily and don't expect others to do so either.
basic manners : stop whining,and try to learn the game,without whining
Never think you're about to lose. I came across the game. You can always draw in a seemingly lost position. Everyone should know that.
The hardest thing in chess is to win a won game.
"The hardest thing in chess is to win a won game"?
It's a nice phrase, but it's a load of crap. It's a lot harder to win a lost game.
I have been asked yet again to resign by an opponent rated 400pts higher than me, i know im struggling in the games but do I not have the right to finish the games by forcing him to checkmate me? Yes im losing the games but I don't think that gives him the right to tell me it's painful watching me play. I am still learning the bloody game and trying to improve. I recently played a guy rated 2400 who complimented me and gave me tips on how to improve which I greatly appreciated. He knew he was going to win the games but yet didnt feel the need to criticize. Its basic manners I suppose. I don't give up games easily and don't expect others to do so either.
basic manners : stop whining,and try to learn the game,without whining
Actually, basic manners say his opponent should just shut up and play the game. He has the right to fight until he chooses not to fight any longer. The fact that you and others don't like that he has that right is irrelevant. Or is it that you are afraid that your technique is not good enough to win a won game?
and then we came again,what nearth. said do it 100 times,and maybe you learn
I have been asked yet again to resign by an opponent rated 400pts higher than me, i know im struggling in the games but do I not have the right to finish the games by forcing him to checkmate me? Yes im losing the games but I don't think that gives him the right to tell me it's painful watching me play. I am still learning the bloody game and trying to improve. I recently played a guy rated 2400 who complimented me and gave me tips on how to improve which I greatly appreciated. He knew he was going to win the games but yet didnt feel the need to criticize. Its basic manners I suppose. I don't give up games easily and don't expect others to do so either.
basic manners : stop whining,and try to learn the game,without whining
Actually, basic manners say his opponent should just shut up and play the game. He has the right to fight until he chooses not to fight any longer. The fact that you and others don't like that he has that right is irrelevant. Or is it that you are afraid that your technique is not good enough to win a won game?
and then we came again,what nearth. said do it 100 times,and maybe you learn
sorryb ,not to you
Sure? Checked the other posts first, did you?
Sometimes two people post at the same time; once in a while they even use a similar sentence.
Please change the tone of this thread. Keep things nice and well mannered, so I don't have to lock this thread.
For the record, no one HAS to resign ever. If you don't like the way someone plays, and you think they take too long to resign, you can add the player to your blocked list so you don't have to play them anymore.
Right on.
I was simply stating that i hate players who dont resign in a lost position and they do make me mad, but i cant change that.
I got too tempered and angry becuase today was the day i actually won some of those "im losing, might as well play on" and i realized how stupid that was, then i saw this thread and the owner of this thread said how we can play on and stuff.. then that triggered my anger even more..
All i got to say is.. sorry tones for being angry and you have the rights to continue the game to the end, because you do get a time limit and there is no rule against continuing.
I am calmed down now and im sorry for posting many negative comments, and you were right about having the rights to continue a game in a lost position. please forgive me Tones for my anger, im not usually like this but i just had a bad day and needed to take it out on something.