Sinquefield Cup 2014

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Carlsen is playing very badly but the only one who is playing worse is Aronian.

Really think that Aronian should have skipped this tournament. Looks off colour since Norway and didn't really stand out in the Olympiad either.

If instead of MVL , Karjakin had played this would have been chess-gasm.

 

Carlsen, Caruana, Aronian, Karjakin.....woooffffff!

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bumiputra wrote:

varelse1 ha scritto:

It occurs to me Caruana is Provolone cheese. That is, he's half Swiss, half Mozzerela.

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would you kindly explain this to me: what does provolone have to do with mozzarella and swiss... what? emmental?

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Corrupt!

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Can somebody tell me if Rc5 (instead of Rxa5) is a win, in the game Carlsen-Topalov? Because Veselin looked rather shocked at the end when Magnus told him about that move...

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lol

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I wonder what the odds are now of Carlsen winning the tourney...

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no it was a stupid move I think topalov was only trying to be polite

Avatar of SilentKnighte5

Rc5 was definitely winning.

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YANQUI_UXO wrote:

Can somebody tell me if Rc5 (instead of Rxa5) is a win, in the game Carlsen-Topalov? Because Veselin looked rather shocked at the end when Magnus told him about that move...

Yes Topalov missed the win ..no doubt about it ..Magnus's pieces were uncordinated and the knight especially , was misplaced on b8 ..by the way I do agree with an earlier statement of yours  : Magnus was very gracious in his interview with Maurice yesterday .

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By the way, why do those super GMs shy away from the Sicilian? From the 7 games started with 1. e4 we had 5 Ruys, 1 Scotch and 1 Caro-Kann if I'm not mistaken.

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Magnus is very classy, that's why I don't understand your "haterism" ...
By the way I checked the chess.com report, it says that after Rc5 white still has a draw ... I don't know, I have to see it for myself :)

Avatar of trotters64
YANQUI_UXO wrote:

Magnus is very classy, that's why I don't understand your "haterism" ...
By the way I checked the chess.com report, it says that after Rc5 white still has a draw ... I don't know, I have to see it for myself :)

I dont hate Magnus..whatever gave you that impression ..I always root for the guys chasing the number one.

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"Yes Topalov missed the win ..no doubt about it"

You keep repeating this, no doubt knowing how wrong you are, but no surprise there :-) Analysis from Monokroussos at The Chess Mind:

"46.Rxc5 Nxc5 47.h5! Nc7 48.Nxa6+ Nxa6 49.Kg3 Kd6 50.Kf4 and it turns out that White's counterplay easily suffices for the draw"

"had Topalov found and played it [Rc5] Carlsen wouldn't have had much trouble finding this line and saving the point"

http://www.viewchess.com/cbreader/2014/8/31/Game53048781.html

Avatar of JFSebastianKnight

...everybody knows carlsen is passing a difficult moment i've heard he banged his head on the edge of a pool and now he's forgotten all his chess but they, the guys from the gm group, are all trying to act as if nothing had happened.

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that's what buddies are for

Avatar of trotters64
fabelhaft wrote:

"Yes Topalov missed the win ..no doubt about it"

 

You keep repeating this, no doubt knowing how wrong you are, but no surprise there :-) Analysis from Monokroussos at The Chess Mind:

 

"46.Rxc5 Nxc5 47.h5! Nc7 48.Nxa6+ Nxa6 49.Kg3 Kd6 50.Kf4 and it turns out that White's counterplay easily suffices for the draw"

 

"had Topalov found and played it [Rc5] Carlsen wouldn't have had much trouble finding this line and saving the point"

 

http://www.viewchess.com/cbreader/2014/8/31/Game53048781.html

" Carlsen wouldn't have had too much trouble finding the line" ; dont make me laugh , Carlsen is having trouble finding his way out of bed right now never mind finding the right drawing lines... even Carlsen himself described his play as awful and that his quest for a loss very nearly came to pass .

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"'Carlsen wouldn't have had too much trouble finding the line' ; dont make me laugh , Carlsen is having trouble finding his way out of bed right now"

So we can conclude that you are right that there is no doubt that Rc5 was a winning move I suppose :-)

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"If instead of MVL , Karjakin had played this would have been chess-gasm"

Well MVL is sole second and has more than showed that he deserved to be invited after Karjakin declined, and it isn't much separating the two anyway, 1.8 Elo at the moment.

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Interesting comments from Ken Regan about the Intrinsic Performance Rating of this tournament.

"Aronian 2645

Carlsen 2835
Caruana 2935
Nakamura 2660 (the game with Topalov was indeed "bad" as Topa said, under 2200 between the players)
Topalov 2700
Vachier-Lagrave 2855."

http://www.thechessmind.net/blog/2014/8/30/sinquefield-cup-round-4-caruana-is-4-0-updated.html

Avatar of trotters64
fabelhaft wrote:

"'Carlsen wouldn't have had too much trouble finding the line' ; dont make me laugh , Carlsen is having trouble finding his way out of bed right now"

 

So we can conclude that you are right that there is no doubt that Rc5 was a winning move I suppose :-)

Nowhere have I said that Rc5 was the winning move.. what I say is that once Carlsen placed his pieces in an uncordinated fashion with his knight on b8 Topalov had great winning chances..Maurice the analyst described Magnus's moves as weird .

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"Nowhere have I said that Rc5 was the winning move"

You said that there is no doubt that Topalov missed the win, but have never given any winning line, which would be interesting to see.