so what do you think about correspondence chess?

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stassneyking

It seems like people have many different opinions of correspondence chess. I personally think it has helped me improve vastly because I probably take an average of 3 to 5 hours per game to truly understand the positions and calculate everything I can. It is like working on a painting a little bit every day and really focusing on all the details, as opposed to finishing it in one sitting or doing a quick sketch. I know some people suspect their opponent of setting up a board and analyzing variations otb - something I consider cheating and a waste of time - and yes it is unfortunate that this is always possible but either way you are playing quality chess games.

I've had a few instances where my opponent's account was closed by chess.com. I suspect this is because they were caught using an engine. Sure I got free points for these games, but I have also lost and agreeed to draws to people whose accounts were closed after the game. I figure the two balance each other out ratingwise.

Let me know your thoughts!

LogoCzar

I dont think setting up a board to analyze is cheating, they even give you an analysis board.

Sred
stassneyking wrote:

<snip>I know some people suspect their opponent of setting up a board and analyzing variations otb - something I consider cheating and a waste of time - and yes it is unfortunate that this is always possible but either way you are playing quality chess games.</snip>

It's not upon you to decide what's cheating. Setting up a board is of course allowed. Does noboby even read the rules before starting to play?

CMisforCHECKMATE
I like it because it fits my schedule and I have moves to make almost all the time so whenever I have a spare minute or more I can work on my chess game.
stassneyking

Okay it's not cheating, just something I frown upon because I don't do it. In real chess you have to calculate in your mind so I don't know why people would not do that in practice. Seems like a waste of time.

CMisforCHECKMATE
Why isn't it real chess? It's like open book test taking... Still as much of a test as any other test.
Lorgen

In real chess you don't have days to look things over. Correspondence is an analysis session, not a game. There's little point in comparing it to one.

Sred
stassneyking wrote:

Okay it's not cheating, just something I frown upon because I don't do it. In real chess you have to calculate in your mind so I don't know why people would not do that in practice. Seems like a waste of time.

So Correspondence Chess, being around for centuries now, is not real chess?

And of course, it's not a waste of time at all. Would you say that a professional long distance runner wastes their time when going a much lower speed in training than in competition? Of course not. They are using the lower speed to improve specific aspects of their performance, while other aspects are being developed in different training sessions with higher speed.

Analysing your games is no waste of time. Online chess is like that, only that analysis starts with the game.

ChessOfPlayer

I don't play it.  It is not real chess in my opinion.  

tunnock

I use correspondence chess as a fun learning  learning tool though I don't play it on chess.com. You are (at least on other sites) allowed to consult opening books and databases and can learn whilst you play. Using engines is of course cheating. Remember in the past before chess engines world championship matches were often adjourned and the players and their teams allowed to analyse the game over the board before recommencing the game.  

xlote

Many years ago, I moved to a location without a handy chess club, or without many area tournaments.  I took up Postal chess (the real correspondence chess!) and my understanding of the game improved imensely.

Later, I moved again and renewed playing OTB; of course my rating shot up.  IMO, Correspondence chess is the next best thing to a chess coach and if I had a coach, I'd probably still play correspondence if I wanted to improve OTB.

By the way, Bullet is not real chess. LOL

Diakonia

I have grown to love it for what it is, a great way to improve your game.  

8Os_PostalExpert
tunnock wrote:

You are (at least on other sites) allowed to consult opening books and databases and can learn whilst you play. Using engines is of course cheating.

  1. On chess.com you can use opening books and databases
  2. Using engines is not cheating on some other servers, such as iccf and ficgs
ChessOfPlayer
Rob3rtJamesFischer wrote:
ChessOfPlayer wrote:

I don't play it.  It is not real chess in my opinion.  

Of course it isnt when you are playing on the internet.

When you play it against actually strong and honest competent players it is a rather beatiful experience. Analyzing is art.

Yeah, the internet plays a major part in why I don't play it for obvious reasons.  Analyzing is art of course but I rather analyzing and calculating in your head before the move is played on any board and feel that is more beautiful and deserving more credit.

eaguiraud

I do not like CC, not real chess IMO.

DonaldoTrump
ChessOfPlayer wrote:

I don't play it.  It is not real chess in my opinion.  

I saw your thread about me being some Yuri dude that appeared to be a troll.

I also see you blocked me, meaning that you are the ultimate sissy. Why don't you unblock me so I can prove your arguments wrong with a single sentence?

 

I was considering opening a thread to difamate people like you did but I won't fall as low as you...

 

Diakonia
Rob3rtJamesFischer wrote:
ChessOfPlayer wrote:
Rob3rtJamesFischer wrote:
ChessOfPlayer wrote:

I don't play it.  It is not real chess in my opinion.  

Of course it isnt when you are playing on the internet.

When you play it against actually strong and honest competent players it is a rather beatiful experience. Analyzing is art.

Yeah, the internet plays a major part in why I don't play it for obvious reasons.  Analyzing is art of course but I rather analyzing and calculating in your head before the move is played on any board and feel that is more beautiful and deserving more credit.

Correspondence chess is another branch of chess with its own beauty. 

Deeply analyzing the position and annotating your lines in a notebook should also deserve credit as you are still analyzing and secondly you are doing it in a very deep way. No Chess GM can analyze positions so deeply when moves aren't forced in their head, it would require a board and a notebook.

Still, that is your opinion and I respect it.

Aditionally, you may want to try playing oficial correspondence chess. (Postal Chess)

If we are talkingabout the same site.  I tried to sign up and they sent me a reply letting me know that chess engines are allowed.  So i decided not to join.

ChessOfPlayer
Diakonia wrote:

If we are talkingabout the same site.  I tried to sign up and they sent me a reply letting me know that chess engines are allowed.  So i decided not to join.

Yeah.  I don't know planet using a chess engine is permited in.

ChessOfPlayer

@Donaldo

Everybody knows you are Yuri apparently as clear by my thread.  I did not have to post it.  I blocked you because I had blocked Yuri and I don't want trolls posting in my future threads! :D

DonaldoTrump
ChessOfPlayer wrote:

@Donaldo

Everybody knows you are Yuri apparently as clear by my thread.  I did not have to post it.  I blocked you because I had blocked Yuri and I don't want trolls posting in my future threads! :D

You can't know something when you don't have proofs.

Liking Bobby Fischer is too general. Every player that hopes to achieve mastery would love Fischer.

Criticizing your stupid annotations (at first I didnt care but took a look on it because you mention it a lot, almost as if someone bullied you there) is also normal. Maybe if they were actually interesting or made sense my view on them would be different.

And I already forgot what I posted on your endgame thread.

You blocked me for recommending you a nice endgame which  is famous between chess players and thought it would help you on endgames as you seemed interested on them? No, you blocked me so you can pust your nonsense without having to worry about Donaldo making you like a retard.

 

And finally the sentence (more like sentences, you can't answer to such stupid arguments with only one sentence) that refutes your stupid difamation.

 

You have no way to prove I am the so called Yuri. Guessing isn't a prove kiddo. The fact that someone likes Fischer or criticizes your annotations is not a prove.

 

Good luck refuting what I just said.