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shoopi

#2 has been solved.

ivandh solved #5 which was the hardest, good job!

I'll post more tomorrow.

Coolbluesky

A young woman is at a funeral because she has lost her mother. She sees a handsome man who she is attracted to and knew a bit of, because he was friends with her family. Three years later, they are both at a funeral again, because the woman's sister had died. What is the irony of the second funeral?

ivandh

The guy is secretly murdering all the women in her family, and she's next?

LoekBergman

Well I see that there are a lot of good new riddles going on and mine was not solved yet. So I will tell the solution before waning in oblivion. :-)

This was the riddle:

 

It is inner processing is chaotic, its results are utmost precise,

it is strictly governed by laws, which are not made humanwise,

it is a really cool working time independent device.

 

The first answer was clock or watch. Partly good, partly wrong. How to answer without giving away too much or too less? I replied that it was not normal for a clock or watch in general to run on a chaotic process. The solution of the riddle is a specific type of clock, namely an atomic clock.

You can not predict will atom will decay, but it is of an astounding precision, clearly showing strict laws of nature being applied.

With the word cool do I first of all mean cold, but personally I think it is awesome too. And it is time independent, because it creates, even defines the second, by its own regularity.

Heartbeat was a very creative and beautiful answer, but I would not say that a heartbeat is only governed by laws not made humanwise. There are a lot of human affairs that affect the heartbeat. It can be the solution of a very poetical riddle.

learningthemoves
Coolbluesky wrote:

A young woman is at a funeral because she has lost her mother. She sees a handsome man who she is attracted to and knew a bit of, because he was friends with her family. Three years later, they are both at a funeral again, because the woman's sister had died. What is the irony of the second funeral?

The woman's sister was the handsome man's wife.

Gil-Gandel
Coolbluesky wrote:

A young woman is at a funeral because she has lost her mother. She sees a handsome man who she is attracted to and knew a bit of, because he was friends with her family. Three years later, they are both at a funeral again, because the woman's sister had died. What is the irony of the second funeral?

The young woman murdered her sister in order to see the young man again.

(And this answer officially profiles me as a psychopath, as I understand it.)

Gil-Gandel
Sharrocks wrote:

Three guests check into a hotel room. The clerk says the bill is $30, so each guest pays $10. Later the clerk realizes the bill should only be $25. To rectify this, he gives the bellhop $5 to return to the guests. On the way to the room, the bellhop realizes that he cannot divide the money equally. As the guests didn’t know the total of the revised bill, the bellhop decides to just give each guest $1 and keep $2 for himself.

Now that each of the guests has been given $1 back, each has paid $9, bringing the total paid to $27. The bellhop has $2. If the guests originally handed over $30, what happened to the remaining $1?

There is no "remaining $1". The $30 originally handed over has ended up as the $25 paid to the hotel, the $3 returned, and the $2 that the bellhop has. Or, the $27 finally handed over consists of the $25 paid to the hotel and the $2 pocketed by the bellhop. The $2 can't be meaningfully added to the $27; it is part of it.

Gil-Gandel
learningthemoves wrote:
Gil-Gandel wrote:
learningthemoves wrote:

This one turns up in various places on the internet, with no solution. I'll be interested to see if we get one this time.

Oxygen or "air".

1.It's "the key to life and death" because you must breathe to live or you will die.

2. "If you do not find it in your house you will find it nowhere" because if you don't have air to breathe in your house, you won't live to go anywhere else.

3."It's before everyone's eyes; No one can live without it; everyone has used it..."

Again, we all must breathe.

4."The poor usually possess more of it than the rich; children play with it in the streets..."

The poor usually have less resources to shelter themselves from the elements including hot air in the summer and are more exposed to it.

Children play with it in the streets. Children who grow up poor must learn to use the air as a "prop" as they pretend. For example, the child who flaps their arms in the air and says they are flying are really just pretending to fly and are using the air around them as a prop to represent the sky.

5. "The meek and uneducated esteem it highly but the rich often throw it away"...

The meek and uneducated esteem cooled air during the summer and heated air during the winter highly for reasons of comfort and yet the rich often use it wastefully without the need to conserve it as much because they can afford to pay for the heated or cooled air whenever they like without having to worry about running out of resources like kerosene fuel for heated air or freon gas for cooled air, etc.

6. "When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth..."

When we breathe in oxygen, the human body "rejects" or exhales the rest of the air in the form of carbon dioxide which is absorbed by trees, plants and ultimately back into the earth and below its surface. When we burn fuels, the carbon dioxide gas goes back to lie dormant in the bowels of the earth where it collects for millions of years too.

"It is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created."

The Philosopher's Stone had to do with alchemy and was broken into 4 main elements:

1.Air

2.Fire

3.Earth

4.Water

By definition, The noble metals are metals that are resistant to corrosion and oxidation in moist air, unlike most base metals

Therefore, if the metals do not have moist *air* from which to resist corrosion and oxidation, they would be just like base metals and wouldn't be considered noble metals.

So for these reasons and justifications, I submit to you the answer, "Air".

Not bad. I respectfully submit however that:

2. In the entire history of mankind, I would be surprised to learn that there had ever been anyone anywhere who had no air in his house.

5. The meek and uneducated pay no attention to air, they take it for granted.

6. Exhaled air does not end up in the bowels of the earth, it is overwhelmingly recycled into the atmosphere.

Thanks bud. Were those 3 really the only ones you had trouble following? That's understandable without some more explanation to remove any opportunity for you to miss it. So Iet's explain.

In regards to the #2, that's exactly the point. No one went without the air in their house because they'd die if they did. However, plenty have died of smoke inhalation in their own homes as the smoke prevented them from getting the air they needed in their own home and as a result, they weren't able to get it outside of their home either, just as the riddle says.

For #5, I'll admit that one could seem like a stretch at first, but if you really thoughtfully consider it's the poor and meek who are usually the most grateful for the simple things, you'll probably recall hearing someone saying a prayer of thanksgiving for simply having air to breathe. On the other hand, the rich are often generalized as being too busy with all their worldly entrapments and entanglements to stop and be thankful for such simple things common to every man.

And for #6, you'll find carbon dioxide gas, after being rejected, is indeed  lying dormant in the bowels of the earth and in fact buried a hundred miles under the earth, heated 2,200 degrees, pressured 725,000 pounds per square inch and then returns to the earth's surface to cool. That's one way diamonds are made.

I had no trouble following anything you said, I merely disagreed that it made sense.  I don't intend to waste further time arguing with you.

learningthemoves
Gil-Gandel wrote:
learningthemoves wrote:
Gil-Gandel wrote:
learningthemoves wrote:

This one turns up in various places on the internet, with no solution. I'll be interested to see if we get one this time.

Oxygen or "air".

1.It's "the key to life and death" because you must breathe to live or you will die.

2. "If you do not find it in your house you will find it nowhere" because if you don't have air to breathe in your house, you won't live to go anywhere else.

3."It's before everyone's eyes; No one can live without it; everyone has used it..."

Again, we all must breathe.

4."The poor usually possess more of it than the rich; children play with it in the streets..."

The poor usually have less resources to shelter themselves from the elements including hot air in the summer and are more exposed to it.

Children play with it in the streets. Children who grow up poor must learn to use the air as a "prop" as they pretend. For example, the child who flaps their arms in the air and says they are flying are really just pretending to fly and are using the air around them as a prop to represent the sky.

5. "The meek and uneducated esteem it highly but the rich often throw it away"...

The meek and uneducated esteem cooled air during the summer and heated air during the winter highly for reasons of comfort and yet the rich often use it wastefully without the need to conserve it as much because they can afford to pay for the heated or cooled air whenever they like without having to worry about running out of resources like kerosene fuel for heated air or freon gas for cooled air, etc.

6. "When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth..."

When we breathe in oxygen, the human body "rejects" or exhales the rest of the air in the form of carbon dioxide which is absorbed by trees, plants and ultimately back into the earth and below its surface. When we burn fuels, the carbon dioxide gas goes back to lie dormant in the bowels of the earth where it collects for millions of years too.

"It is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created."

The Philosopher's Stone had to do with alchemy and was broken into 4 main elements:

1.Air

2.Fire

3.Earth

4.Water

By definition, The noble metals are metals that are resistant to corrosion and oxidation in moist air, unlike most base metals

Therefore, if the metals do not have moist *air* from which to resist corrosion and oxidation, they would be just like base metals and wouldn't be considered noble metals.

So for these reasons and justifications, I submit to you the answer, "Air".

Not bad. I respectfully submit however that:

2. In the entire history of mankind, I would be surprised to learn that there had ever been anyone anywhere who had no air in his house.

5. The meek and uneducated pay no attention to air, they take it for granted.

6. Exhaled air does not end up in the bowels of the earth, it is overwhelmingly recycled into the atmosphere.

Thanks bud. Were those 3 really the only ones you had trouble following? That's understandable without some more explanation to remove any opportunity for you to miss it. So Iet's explain.

In regards to the #2, that's exactly the point. No one went without the air in their house because they'd die if they did. However, plenty have died of smoke inhalation in their own homes as the smoke prevented them from getting the air they needed in their own home and as a result, they weren't able to get it outside of their home either, just as the riddle says.

For #5, I'll admit that one could seem like a stretch at first, but if you really thoughtfully consider it's the poor and meek who are usually the most grateful for the simple things, you'll probably recall hearing someone saying a prayer of thanksgiving for simply having air to breathe. On the other hand, the rich are often generalized as being too busy with all their worldly entrapments and entanglements to stop and be thankful for such simple things common to every man.

And for #6, you'll find carbon dioxide gas, after being rejected, is indeed  lying dormant in the bowels of the earth and in fact buried a hundred miles under the earth, heated 2,200 degrees, pressured 725,000 pounds per square inch and then returns to the earth's surface to cool. That's one way diamonds are made.

I had no trouble following anything you said, I merely disagreed that it made sense.  I don't intend to waste further time arguing with you.

That's good. I don't recommend arguing or wasting time either. You'll notice I didn't argue but provided the reasons why the solution to the riddle made sense for you. Hope it helps.

Coolbluesky
Gil-Gandel wrote:
Coolbluesky wrote:

A young woman is at a funeral because she has lost her mother. She sees a handsome man who she is attracted to and knew a bit of, because he was friends with her family. Three years later, they are both at a funeral again, because the woman's sister had died. What is the irony of the second funeral?

The young woman murdered her sister in order to see the young man again.

(And this answer officially profiles me as a psychopath, as I understand it.)

That's the right answer.

learningthemoves
Coolbluesky wrote:
Gil-Gandel wrote:
Coolbluesky wrote:

A young woman is at a funeral because she has lost her mother. She sees a handsome man who she is attracted to and knew a bit of, because he was friends with her family. Three years later, they are both at a funeral again, because the woman's sister had died. What is the irony of the second funeral?

The young woman murdered her sister in order to see the young man again.

(And this answer officially profiles me as a psychopath, as I understand it.)

That's the right answer.

Oh yeah. The "test". I remember that now.

ivandh

She waited three years, then killed her sister to see some dude that was already a friend of the family & whom she could have gotten to know by conventional means?

Kikyo_Sushi
LoekBergman wrote:

Well I see that there are a lot of good new riddles going on and mine was not solved yet. So I will tell the solution before waning in oblivion. :-)

This was the riddle:

 

It is inner processing is chaotic, its results are utmost precise,

it is strictly governed by laws, which are not made humanwise,

it is a really cool working time independent device.

 

The first answer was clock or watch. Partly good, partly wrong. How to answer without giving away too much or too less? I replied that it was not normal for a clock or watch in general to run on a chaotic process. The solution of the riddle is a specific type of clock, namely an atomic clock.

You can not predict will atom will decay, but it is of an astounding precision, clearly showing strict laws of nature being applied.

With the word cool do I first of all mean cold, but personally I think it is awesome too. And it is time independent, because it creates, even defines the second, by its own regularity.

Heartbeat was a very creative and beautiful answer, but I would not say that a heartbeat is only governed by laws not made humanwise. There are a lot of human affairs that affect the heartbeat. It can be the solution of a very poetical riddle.

Hehe .. Glad I got it partly right

.. I did get the reasonings for the 2nd n' 3rd clues given ,correct ( it creates time rather than depends on time ) n' I also knew it din match clue #1 coz a normal clock's working mechanism can't really be described as chaotic ,so juz made a Guess .

ivandh

Very good! I was thinking it might be the Earth's magnetic field, which gives a precise direction and is created by the churning of the Earth's core. But it's not exactly cold and it does change a little bit over time, even flipping now and then.

I'm not sure that the third line really matches, because if it were truly time-independent, it would be useless for telling time. I guess I can see that you meant that time depends on the clock rather than vice versa.

LoekBergman

@kikyo_sushi: yeah, you gave me a puzzle in return how to answer your solution. :-)

@ivandh: your last interpretation indeed. The process is very reliable and we use it to standardize our time, but it is unrelated to time itself. Speed for instance, is dependent on time, but radio active decay imo not.

I was also wondering why she did not write a thanks card after the funeral of her mother. There were so many other options. Or turned it out to be that he killed her mother, was sentenced to death, her sister refused to help her getting into contact with the man and she saw this as the only way to meet him every day on death row? Ouch. Wondering what kind of psychological profile you get with that type of answer?

Gil-Gandel
learningthemoves wrote:
Gil-Gandel wrote:
learningthemoves wrote:
Gil-Gandel wrote:
learningthemoves wrote:

This one turns up in various places on the internet, with no solution. I'll be interested to see if we get one this time.

Oxygen or "air".

1.It's "the key to life and death" because you must breathe to live or you will die.

2. "If you do not find it in your house you will find it nowhere" because if you don't have air to breathe in your house, you won't live to go anywhere else.

3."It's before everyone's eyes; No one can live without it; everyone has used it..."

Again, we all must breathe.

4."The poor usually possess more of it than the rich; children play with it in the streets..."

The poor usually have less resources to shelter themselves from the elements including hot air in the summer and are more exposed to it.

Children play with it in the streets. Children who grow up poor must learn to use the air as a "prop" as they pretend. For example, the child who flaps their arms in the air and says they are flying are really just pretending to fly and are using the air around them as a prop to represent the sky.

5. "The meek and uneducated esteem it highly but the rich often throw it away"...

The meek and uneducated esteem cooled air during the summer and heated air during the winter highly for reasons of comfort and yet the rich often use it wastefully without the need to conserve it as much because they can afford to pay for the heated or cooled air whenever they like without having to worry about running out of resources like kerosene fuel for heated air or freon gas for cooled air, etc.

6. "When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth..."

When we breathe in oxygen, the human body "rejects" or exhales the rest of the air in the form of carbon dioxide which is absorbed by trees, plants and ultimately back into the earth and below its surface. When we burn fuels, the carbon dioxide gas goes back to lie dormant in the bowels of the earth where it collects for millions of years too.

"It is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created."

The Philosopher's Stone had to do with alchemy and was broken into 4 main elements:

1.Air

2.Fire

3.Earth

4.Water

By definition, The noble metals are metals that are resistant to corrosion and oxidation in moist air, unlike most base metals

Therefore, if the metals do not have moist *air* from which to resist corrosion and oxidation, they would be just like base metals and wouldn't be considered noble metals.

So for these reasons and justifications, I submit to you the answer, "Air".

Not bad. I respectfully submit however that:

2. In the entire history of mankind, I would be surprised to learn that there had ever been anyone anywhere who had no air in his house.

5. The meek and uneducated pay no attention to air, they take it for granted.

6. Exhaled air does not end up in the bowels of the earth, it is overwhelmingly recycled into the atmosphere.

Thanks bud. Were those 3 really the only ones you had trouble following? That's understandable without some more explanation to remove any opportunity for you to miss it. So Iet's explain.

In regards to the #2, that's exactly the point. No one went without the air in their house because they'd die if they did. However, plenty have died of smoke inhalation in their own homes as the smoke prevented them from getting the air they needed in their own home and as a result, they weren't able to get it outside of their home either, just as the riddle says.

For #5, I'll admit that one could seem like a stretch at first, but if you really thoughtfully consider it's the poor and meek who are usually the most grateful for the simple things, you'll probably recall hearing someone saying a prayer of thanksgiving for simply having air to breathe. On the other hand, the rich are often generalized as being too busy with all their worldly entrapments and entanglements to stop and be thankful for such simple things common to every man.

And for #6, you'll find carbon dioxide gas, after being rejected, is indeed  lying dormant in the bowels of the earth and in fact buried a hundred miles under the earth, heated 2,200 degrees, pressured 725,000 pounds per square inch and then returns to the earth's surface to cool. That's one way diamonds are made.

I had no trouble following anything you said, I merely disagreed that it made sense.  I don't intend to waste further time arguing with you.

That's good. I don't recommend arguing or wasting time either. You'll notice I didn't argue but provided the reasons why the solution to the riddle made sense for you. Hope it helps.

So noted. Sometimes I see offence where none was meant. We cool now? Cool

CoenJones

So we are solving riddles on chess forums. . .

Kikyo_Sushi

.. or maybe she killed her sister coz he married her sister instead of her ,3 years ago ?

LoekBergman
Kikyo_Sushi wrote:

.. or maybe she killed her sister coz he married her sister instead of her ,3 years ago ?

+1

Asakura123

nobody said he was driving the car to norway hes going by plane