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Broadsword79

Some things have been bothering me on chess.com lately, hopefully someone will know the answers

1) im playing someone rated higher in blitz 2000 than they are at daily chess 1700, how is this possible when they have much longer on each move in daily, this should be their highest rating? They have played lots of games in both. I also played against a CM (candidate master?) who when the tournament started was rated 1900 in daily chess, as the time went on his rating got lower and lower and is now 900 or something silly. I also notice there are quie a few titled players with daily chess ratings in the 1700-2000 range, is this right or am i better at chess than i think seeing im only 200 points away from the same level.

2) in the opening explorer it gives you moves played and the percentage of wins/loss/draw for each colour. I use this in daily chess to get through the openings sometimes, especially if i want to try a new opening or someone plays something i havent seen before Are these from games by grandmasters only? are they only for classical games? I slipped up using it recently in daily chess. I played 1.e4 e6 2.nf3 d5  and now here the explorer showed a move that had 67% win for white, the French defense perseus gambit 3.d4    So liking the look of that i played it and then my opponent plays the obvious dxe and now the percentage has swung in blacks favour massively. What have i missed?

notmtwain
Broadsword79 wrote:

Some things have been bothering me on chess.com lately, hopefully someone will know the answers

1) im playing someone rated higher in blitz 2000 than they are at daily chess 1700, how is this possible when they have much longer on each move in daily, this should be their highest rating? They have played lots of games in both. I also played against a CM (candidate master?) who when the tournament started was rated 1900 in daily chess, as the time went on his rating got lower and lower and is now 900 or something silly. I also notice there are quie a few titled players with daily chess ratings in the 1700-2000 range, is this right or am i better at chess than i think seeing im only 200 points away from the same level.

2) in the opening explorer it gives you moves played and the percentage of wins/loss/draw for each colour. I use this in daily chess to get through the openings sometimes, especially if i want to try a new opening or someone plays something i havent seen before Are these from games by grandmasters only? are they only for classical games? I slipped up using it recently in daily chess. I played 1.e4 e6 2.nf3 d5  and now here the explorer showed a move that had 67% win for white, the French defense perseus gambit 3.d4    So liking the look of that i played it and then my opponent plays the obvious dxe and now the percentage has swung in blacks favour massively. What have i missed?

 

Blitz and bullet ratings are independent of daily ratings. The leaderboards for blitz and bullet top 3200 while the top daily chess ratings are around 2600.

baddogno

1/  Not everyone plays classic "try to craft a perfect game" correspondence when they play daily.  Some have iffy internet and use Daily as a substitute, moving at blitz speed.  Some like to play dozens of games at a time and when they're bored and have nothing else to do, go through all their games almost as if they were timed tactics puzzles.  So no, unfortunately odds are that you aren't much better than you thought.  

2/ Moves get refuted, but the statistics may stay the same for many years now that titled players no longer play that move order.  The Explorer uses titled players, but I don't believe it's GMs exclusively.  If you're serious about using a database to choose opening moves, you should probably doublecheck with other sources.  Like if you had Googled perseus gambit, you might have decided against it.  And there are other databases you can check as well.  Good correspondence ("Daily") players sometimes spend hours researching each opening move.  Hope that helped.

notmtwain

if you were looking at the above and saw that d4 had a 93% win percentage (86% wins and 14% draws) but had only been played 7 times, while there were thousands of games with other choices, you should have been suspicious.

sndeww
Broadsword79 wrote:

Some things have been bothering me on chess.com lately, hopefully someone will know the answers

1) im playing someone rated higher in blitz 2000 than they are at daily chess 1700, how is this possible when they have much longer on each move in daily, this should be their highest rating? They have played lots of games in both. I also played against a CM (candidate master?) who when the tournament started was rated 1900 in daily chess, as the time went on his rating got lower and lower and is now 900 or something silly. I also notice there are quie a few titled players with daily chess ratings in the 1700-2000 range, is this right or am i better at chess than i think seeing im only 200 points away from the same level.

2) in the opening explorer it gives you moves played and the percentage of wins/loss/draw for each colour. I use this in daily chess to get through the openings sometimes, especially if i want to try a new opening or someone plays something i havent seen before Are these from games by grandmasters only? are they only for classical games? I slipped up using it recently in daily chess. I played 1.e4 e6 2.nf3 d5  and now here the explorer showed a move that had 67% win for white, the French defense perseus gambit 3.d4    So liking the look of that i played it and then my opponent plays the obvious dxe and now the percentage has swung in blacks favour massively. What have i missed?

 

Personally I treat daily like bullet. Perhaps they do the same...

blueemu

Ratings don't measure your playing strength.

They measure your results against a specific pool of players. If the people you play Blitz against are not the same individuals that you play daily against, then the two ratings are independent and it makes no sense to compare them, much less to ask why one rating is higher.

Why is this orange bigger than that apple?