I lol at such people.
It happens even more online.
Anyway you are the moral victor. You probably gained 100 ratings points of respect in your club, and your opponent -100, at least 
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Mar 8, 2012
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#62
Violets_are_blue wrote:
When you start a game you agree with the rules. He played by the rules, you wanted him not to play by the rules (tried to force him to draw). It's that simple. Throw morals and gamesmanship and all that crap out of the window, it's not your business what other people do.
Yes, we agree with the rules. But this is what they say:
"If the player, having the move, has less than two minutes left on his clock, he may claim a draw before his flag falls. He shall summon the arbiter and may stop the clocks.
If the arbiter agrees the opponent is making no effort to win the game by normal means, or that it is not possible to win by normal means, then he shall declare the game drawn. Otherwise he shall postpone his decision or reject the claim."
(Fide laws of chess, article 10.2 a.)
Were it a tournament he could wait until he has only 2 minutes left and call a arbiter. But it was just a friendly game so the other guy should had just accept the obvious draw.
So, is it solved?
I hope now everybody realizes how stupid it is to try to timeout the opponent when they still have 10 minutes in a dead drawn position.
If not, please give me your opinion, but read that article of FIDE's law of chess first.
I hope everybody also realizes it is impolite not to make a move when the game hasn't finished yet and it's your turn to move :p
So here we have a dilemma and players resorting to off-board insult slinging
heinzie wrote:
I hope everybody also realizes it is impolite not to make a move when the game hasn't finished yet and it's your turn to move :p
Though FirebrandX sugests to not make a move in 10 minutes I guess it is better to just make the several pointless moves until it is possible to call a draw. And meanwhile to observe if threefolded repetition or 50 moves rule haven't happened.
Of course, only if it is a tournament or something like that. If it is a friendly game like the OP's you should just stop playing instead of wasting up to 20 minutes with boring and pointless bishops moves, waiting for the clock.
Friendly games should be only for fun. If someone thinks it is fun to play for 20 minutes a position like that, I would suggest them to try watching the grass growing. They would probably love it!
The only time I have not taken a draw in such situations is online when I have repeatedly offered an obvious draw and he declines because he has more time; later, if he offers me a draw with less time, I might not accept. But this case is ridiculous.
It's not at all retarded to win a chess game when your opponent doesn't demonstrate that it is a draw.
FirebrandX wrote:
II-Oliveira wrote:
heinzie wrote:
I hope everybody also realizes it is impolite not to make a move when the game hasn't finished yet and it's your turn to move :p
Though FirebrandX sugests to not make a move in 10 minutes I guess it is better to just make the several pointless moves until it is possible to call a draw. And meanwhile to observe if threefolded repetition or 50 moves rule haven't happened.
There's no point in making any move on your turn since they were probably not writing moves down (being a non-tournament game). As such, you'd have no proof of a 3-fold. Also, who cares if it's polite or not to move on your turn when your opponent is intent on dragging on a dead drawn position? My idea by not moving was to make the opponent realize he's wasting everyone's time by not agreeing to the draw. It puts the idiocy of the whole thing back on him, and unless he's completely retarded, he'll get the idea fairly quickly.
FirebrandX, you got the wrong idea from that paragraph. After that paragraph I specifically said "Of course, only if it is a tournament or something like that".
If it is a informal game I said I would rather just stop playing. Who cares if the guy thinks he won? I wouldn'tstay there waiting to declare a draw in a friendly game.
Mar 12, 2012
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#70
FirebrandX wrote:
So if we go 'by the rules' as Violets wants to do, then the OP could have just sat there for ten mins and then stopped the clock to announce the game is drawn and have the club president rule as such. That's pretty much what he did anyway, albeit not waiting until within two minutes left on his clock.
In fact, knowing this ahead of time, I would tell the opponent "I'm going to make you wait ten minutes for it to be officially ruled a draw, or you can agree to the draw now. It's your choice."
No that can't happen, and is not the point of the 10.2 rule. Obviously it comes down to common sense.
In the position displayed in the opening post, assuming you had just reached that position, and it was back up on the scoresheets and everything, and I was in a tournament, and you had 10 minutes left on your clock, I wouldn't expect someone to claim a draw under the 10.2 rule after not moving for 10 minutes.
Infact in a tournament I would call over the chess arbiter, and say: "My opponent intends to claim a draw under the FIDE rule 10.2 of chess. I agree it is a book draw, but I don't agree that my opponent has demostrated that they know its a draw, as they have not made a move since this position occured. I am still making an effort to win by normal means, and it is still possible to win by normal means. I will claim a win if my opponent runs out of time if they have no intention of moving with 10 minutes left on the clock."
I think in that situation if you just blantantly refused to move for 10 minutes you wouldn't get any such draw.
Mar 12, 2012
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#71
FirebrandX wrote:
corpsporc wrote:
It's not at all retarded to win a chess game when your opponent doesn't demonstrate that it is a draw.
You need to retrace the post references. The FIDE rules of chess state you can stop the clocks when you have less than two minutes left and your opponent is obviously trying to win on time in a drawn position. The club president agreed it was a drawn position, and so that's all he would have needed to 'demonstrate that it is a draw'.
But the question is when is your opponent trying to win just on time.
If that position has just occured and then my opponent just refuses to move I wouldn't accept a draw.
If we had made several moves and I was satisified that my opponent not only knew it was a draw, but knew how to draw only then would I then make a draw offer.
heh.. I watched one of those earlier today. opposite colored bishop endgame = draw. But yet I sat & watched it go on for over 90 moves, when it was clearly drawn around move 45-ish. I suppose I was just wondering how long it would take for either side to realize it. thankfully the repetition rule ended it, or they would have gone on forever perhaps 
Unfortunately for the OP, his opponent was a child (in more than one way).
And that is being charitable.