Did Hans Niemann cheat?

Unfortunately Hans dropped out if the current freestyle tournament in Paris. Im thinking that'll do the final damage to his reputation. I was hoping Hans would show everybody (the haters) they were wrong, but this really hurts.

nobody has proof that niemann cheated though

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Niemann himself admitted that he cheated online. More than once.

On the other hand, he certainly didn't cheat against Carlsen on the Sinquefield Cup. Magnus just played terribly and then decided to blame someone else instead of himself.

Online tge evidence and his confession confirms he did use assistance but only online! There is still no concrete evidence he has in over the board play despite his fellow pros suspicions!? As a person i think he is rather full of his self and his outbursts do him no favours hopefully he will learn in maturity of his years.

Hans just won the qualifier for the Vegas freestylle event (on his birthday today, hes 22 now) Hes been kicking butt in blitz in the titled tuesdays events. Hes about 3275ish for his chess.com blitz rating. Hes 2736 fide rated. Hans is fully legit. Hes not a cheater. Just because he did as a kid doesnt mean hes an evil villian deserving of everlasting ridicule. Cast the first stone and all that.....

I dislike Hans, but its obvious he didn't cheat imo.

He admitted to cheating in his youth during a random game, were many wouldn't that shows him to be more honest then guilty imo. I don't believe he has ever cheated professional chess, he deserves much, much, more respect in the chess community for his incredible play. I dislike his personality and many people also dislike his personality, but this is wildly unfair and as a community we shouldn't support these ideas about the greats at chess..

I just looked at the current blitz ratings on here. Just look at the group Hans is in at #4. I think he even reached #1 at some point. And keep in mind, thats with Carlsen, Nakamura, Firouzja and everybody included. He really is a super GM and didnt cheat his way there.

This is incorrect. He admitted to cheating in far more than one "random" game, but claims to have only cheated in one (or possibly two) online $$$ event. Pros are entitled to their opinions the same way a casino is entitled to ban you for life even if you are only caught cheating for $$$ once, or a 7-11 is entitled to ban you from a store for shoplifting "only once".

How you choose to conduct yourself has lasting consequences. Youth is not a get out of jail free card. Hopefully the young hordes of players here will take this lesson seriously and not assume they can just develop some character and integrity later on down the road and be fine. Will young people make youthful indiscretions? Yes. Does that mean they are entitled to a complete "reset" at 18? No, it does not. That's a myth stemming from legal records being "hidden" at 18. Much like free speech does not apply to anything but the government itself censuring your speech, hiding legal records is only for exactly that, legal records. If you get a reputation as a heroin junkie or a money launderer, let's say, that does not go away...ever. If you yell the N-word at somebody in a passing car, that doesn't go away...ever. If you buy something with your parent's credit card and steal from them, that doesn't go away...ever.

They do hopefully get some consideration and a second chance due to their lack of experience, and Hans has already gotten that. Cheating is a matter of ethics, though, so the "second chances" are minimal...because you cannot claim you didn't really know you were cheating, you can only claim you "didn't think it was a big deal".

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