(..) ..etc, and there's is no way to resolve this issue, it's like a paradox. And that is why stalemate should stay a draw, (..) no different stalemates being different results depending on the type of stalemate, it's just a draw period, end of discussion, and is consistent that way. The problem is people who want stalemate to be a win aren't thinking it through. They just think of a queen stalemating a king in the corner without a check. They don't think of the other examples I keep posting which show how when you take into account other stalemates, you get those logical paradoxes.
Stalemate as a draw is a paradox. There's no paradox like that.
But it works: not because it happens to score your wonderful help-stalemates sideshow justly, but because it adds flavour to the game.. generosity, a lot of humour and sets of skills. With its unsparing lifelines, it frees us from single-minded pragmatism, grants defense momentum, challenges the attack to overcome new resources- while also backing up daring play, because you can gambit a pawn or sacrifice a piece and still may drop back to play for stalemate if you fail to come through. Chess, harsh enough, redistributes some of its harshness cracking the joke 'stalemate be a draw'.
Glory to the paradoxical stalemate rule we enjoy! Stand up for it! I will.
It could always be thrown away by mindless pragmatism. It could be substituted by a set of rules like this (I quote from my post here #315): "Chess is won by mate or stalemate, while calling those blockaded positions with no check and no king that would have to move into check "stalemate" no longer (where they are subsumed so far, because there is no move and no check) but a "lock" and count them as a draw. Mate would remain the same, stalemate would be all positions where there is no check and the side to play would have to move into check. Both mate and stalemate would win, while those positions with no check and no moves at all would be a lock and count as a draw."
That would make for a more logical game! -But it would give up a whole lot of brother- and sisterhood given by 'stalemate is a draw'.
Please delete the thread.
NEVER!
you guys are lucky I don't post everyday until stalemate is abolished!
People who want stalemate banned or a win(for the person who got stalemated )usually suck at avoiding stalemate
Personally if you want to argue who should get the win (my opinion nobody should ) the person who did the stalemating should win so you actually have to checkmate instead of making useless moves up too much material
It's a coping mechanism
The stalematED person winning?? What on Earth is the reasoning behind that?
Your opponent chose not to checkmate therefore you win