Stalling in Daily Chess.

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wizardKM wrote:

Despite the fact that some players are within their rights to take the full allotment of time in Daily games to make their move, nevertheless there seems to be an unwritten rule of Daily game etiquette that both players make more than one move per turn, especially during the opening and part of the midgame at least.

Certainly never noticed that, Wiz.

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Lexhibition wrote:

I mentioned in the OP that I know they play within the rules. Still 95% of the daily chess players do not only play one move per game per day. When you have a big tournament of a couple of thousand players, 99% is always waiting for days, weeks or even months on a handful of people that play like this.

"it is called daily for a reason tbh" That's like when in the Tour de France a sprint ends in people falling everywhere, breaking all kinds of bones in their bodies, because a guy didn't restrain his dog and then saying "It's called cycling for a reason tbh."

Pretty clear this is a troll thread.

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Your recent games have you losing all because you ran out of time. Why are you complaining when you are stalling?
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I've been playing a current opponent since 7th May, we've made 47 moves. They have been on vacation many times. Currently they have been on vacation for two days with the option of 7 weeks! They have on average 40 games in play all paused, yet I know they have been online in the last two hours. I play other games while waiting...if I go away I try to make sure I've  completed all my games before I leave. However, I had to pause this opponent when I really did go on vacation for 2 days! While this game has been going on I have won and lost many others most of which were very entertaining, some educational and one absolute classic (in my opinion). The reason I say this is because I agree with the OP. I understand some people need to pause games but I feel this facility is often misused. I have reported my opponent for stalling but I don't think anything will be done about it as it's within the rules. Just venting my frustration. Still, this is a marvellous site and I hope to have many more good games in the future. Have fun x

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JeBkO6661 wrote:

Ok here is how it is, stalling is a way to punish someone , they need to learn their place. Stalling shall save you all from my wrath.destiny is at hand. Cosmos weeps when i touch it. BWAHAHAHHAHAH BBRBRBRBRBRBBR

It's funny how some people can sound loud even though it's just written words. I guess you're saying I/We need to have a sense of perspective. I particularly like your final commentthumbup

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I play for fun and am too busy to have to think about Chess for very long each day. I moved fast last Sunday and got CMd quick. I like being able to go over all the possibilities and will only play 2 day games. I thought I was pretty good until I joined up here. 😁

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I wish they had a feature where you could offer to finish it in a shorter time control. You get to an end game and know that one of you have the advantage and then you wait for the highly likely ending.
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ChrisA1960 hat geschrieben:

I've been playing a current opponent since 7th May, we've made 47 moves. They have been on vacation many times. Currently they have been on vacation for two days with

May 7th is not very spectacular. I have one ongoing game since February 15th, and today is July 4th (happy independence day, by the way). This game is decided at least since a month or so, but I don't care... it'a a daily game, so these things happen a lot.

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My May 7th game is still on going. Opponent hadn't moved for 28 days and has 4 weeks vacation left. "It's a daily game, these things happen". I don't know my opponent's circumstances, but I don't see this as daily, it's now monthly. My other games are moving along nicely so not that bothered any more... 

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This is absolutely infuriating. I have one opponent who has 100 or so active daily games, and is playing hundreds of moves a day: but in 3 or 4 of their games, they're losing pretty badly, including against me.

I noticed them taking 6+ days per move suddenly, and lo and behold, there they are, playing with hundreds of other people, except the ones they're losing to.

I get it, the time control is there so that nobody loses on time. That's what I signed up for. When someone's made all their moves within a few hours, but then waits 7 days per move when they start losing, that's not time management.

That is a tactic; it's a stalling tactic, and I'm pretty sure that stalling is against site rules. If they weren't playing any other games/moves, then I'd understand, but this is part of their playstyle. I assume many people resign. It's going to take me a year to beat them.

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I just forget about its always funny when im like what game is this OHHHHHHHHHH YEAH I REMEMBER THIS SHI lol its why none of the daily tournaments ever finish i believe 

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I am currently having the same problem with a daily game im playing with 10 moves a turn. Im in a completely won position, im a few moves away from checkmating, and the guy is waiting until day 10 to move. 

The game has been dragged out incredibly long, but theres nothing I can do, i signed up to the tournament and its a 10 move a day tourney, so you can't really report them and get them in trouble for it. they're allowed to use any amount of their time they want.

trust me i understand your beef with it more than anyone, if you look at the tournament my daily game is being played in, the tournament has been going on for over a year and a half because some of my opponents just refused to move despite being in a lost position. 

 

Just make sure if u join a daily tournament or accept a daily game, make sure the time limits short, like 1-3 days.

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Chan_Fry wrote:

I do find it interesting that Chess.com gives a warning in Rapid/Blitz games if you think about a move for a few seconds (still well within the time control) but in Daily there is no warning for the few players who take 23 hours for every move. (Or 13 days and 23 hours in the case of a few 14-day games I joined.) Why is the former penalized but the latter not?

If I play a daily game I will probably take a day to move if I take the game seriously. If I play 1 day game, I may very well take 20 hours to move.

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I'm currently playing two tournaments, and have four games left.  In each one I have a clearly winning position, and the opponent is taking the maximum time (3 days) to finish.

I find this frustrating.  I like daily chess, but I don't want to deal with this again. 

One alternative would be to only play daily with trusted people, however it takes time to have enough players at the right level in the roster.

I have a suggestion, please reply if you think either of these suggestions make sense for daily games:

  1. Allow players to require for matching that their opponent maintains a good average time per move.  So if you are a player that likes 3 days time limit, but often plays more moves, you can match with similar players.
  2. Allow players to choose to match with players in similar times zones (so there is a better chance your opponent makes a move when you are also available to play).
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There is already an option in Daily Tournaments to require players to have an average move speed of less than 12/6/3 hours.

https://www.chess.com/tournament/create

 

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I generally play games that allow 3 days per move. Sometimes I make my move within a couple hours, but sometimes I take a day or two. There is such a thing as real life. Medical emergencies, errands that cannot wait, etc. Also, before I retired I spent 40 years meeting deadlines and keeping schedules set by my employers. I'm done with that. I like to play chess at my own pace, taking the time to set up the position and study it.

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I so agree Antonin.

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Antonin1957 wrote:

I generally play games that allow 3 days per move. Sometimes I make my move within a couple hours, but sometimes I take a day or two. There is such a thing as real life. Medical emergencies, errands that cannot wait, etc. Also, before I retired I spent 40 years meeting deadlines and keeping schedules set by my employers. I'm done with that. I like to play chess at my own pace, taking the time to set up the position and study it.

This isn't at all what people are talking about, and there's a vacation function. We're only talking about games that are *COMPLETELY LOST* for one side, both players know it, but one side takes *the maximum time to move possible*.

I'm sorry, but it takes more effort to use as much time as possible than to just move normally. If someone has a REAL EMERGENCY, they're not going to be timing their moves to occur every 14 days, perfectly, on-the-nose. This is twisting the core issue into something entirely different.

We're all well aware that people have reasons they may not be able to play their moves, but let's stick to the specifics: players who will be engaged in 100 games, actively playing all of them *EXCEPT THE ONES THEYVE LOST*. I can see them making moves each day, sometimes minutes a part, while my game sits there until there's 30 minutes left in a 14-day period.

Please, don't whitewash this topic. It's important, and it has absolutely nothing to do with emergencies or vacation mode. Use vacation mode if you need it, no one cares. Resign your totally, 100% lost positions though.

There are people in this thread who have games that've gone on for THREE YEARS. Trust me, it's NOT AN EMERGENCY. They're stalling and refusing to resign; this isn't an epidemic of broken knees or cracked ribs, it's literally poor sportsmanship, it's widespread, and we need to talk about it. Absolutely ZERO people have a problem with emergencies. That's a complete and total strawman.

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Some people like to look closely at games to avoid making mistakes. Some people just have lots of daily games. (As of posting this, I have 42, but some people have way more). Some only want to do daily games once per day. 

 

That being said, if you don't want to have to wait a long time, then don't join daily games. Simple.

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Which is why I never sign up for daily tournaments longer than 3 days a move. With current technology why would anyone want 14 days between moves?  Simple maths.

A game can easily last 50 moves. Per player. So 100x14 days - more than 4 years?