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  • #21
    SeamusORiley wrote:

     By the way, when Kasparov resigned on move 19, Mephisto Milano only had him down - 0.19

    Could he have fought back?

    Certainly not...engines give evaluations worse than -4.00 after c4...Kasparov was going down in flames and he knew it.  Still can't believe he played that h6 move...  

  • #22

    Thanks, Ziggy.  It is enjoyable, but I am looking for someone (like you) who has advanced and can attest to its efficiacy.  

  • #23
    Ziggyblitz wrote:

    Seamus, studying the way you describe sounds brilliant. I have Pandolfini's book on the Deep Blue v Kasparov match and have found it very instructive. My top machine is a Mephisto Master so I may see how fares with the games from the match.



    how did you make out with this?

    I'd love a strong dedicated chess computer to physically play a game out with analysis in display.  The Resurrection models are out of reach $.  I don't think a new model in the world of dedicated chess computers has been manufactured in years. 

  • #24

    Thanks for the reminder Peter, I'll dust it off today. I lost the adapter for the MM and have only just ordered one from the UK. The unit is battery friendly but the power adapter should prove useful.

  • #25

    I discovered that Mephisto Master is not user friendly when it comes to going  over a game as the process is very laborious and it is easy to mess it up.  Pressing the "clear" button at the wrong time resets to a new gameYell.  MM would often make different moves compared to the game and as MM is rated at 2150 it's move are usually quite strong but certainly not in GM class.  Interesting though is that in game 6, MM considered white as having good compensation for the knight at move 16.  That is when I accidently reset the game and my patience finally ran out.

    In future I'd definitely use a diferent machine if I wanted to go through a game.

  • #26

    old post but here goes. Peter. if you want to analyze chess the best way to do so is to get  deepfritz 13 from chessbase mmm about 100 bucks. and  download stockfish 6 for free from the stockfish chess  site and install it to your deep fritz 13 interface . In terms of strength you wont find any stronger rated over 3200. Komodo 8 is the  new world chess engine champ but! Stockfish 6 rated only 1 under the champ, is much better to study with as in multiple primary variation it excells beyond what Komodo 8 can do . Just look up chessbase and the world class software they  have available . and look into the free ultra powerful stockfish 6 develepment version eng.Its all there on google . hope that helps

  • #27

    OH and the pheonix chess systems are mm like  over 3000 dollars and they use the engine files that fritz uses anyway so may aswell at that point  just get fritz interface and  the top engines and simply set up a chess board and transfer the moves. its really the best option

  • #28

    I did work out how to use Mehisto Master for analysing, I've finally moved on and have loaded the Stockfish, Hiarcs, Shredder and Chess Pro applications onto my iPad. Maybe not as versatile and powerful as the PC and iMac versions but they suit my purposes fine.

  • #29

    Ya, stockfish on an i pad is still a beast from from out of this world. the only thing i thought it was missing was haveing multiple primary variations. I like to see the top 15 or 20 moves rather then just 1 as you can create ideas more easily.

  • #30

    A new dedicated chess computer released only two months ago is the Millennium Chess Genius with a Richard Lang program. A rating of 2000 is claimed by the manufacturer but testing so far indicates a rating over 2100.

  • #31

    I do hope newer, stronger dedicated chess computers will return! They were great! I know they have a lot to do to catch up with the top pc engines for standard of play but I feel this could be achieved. I owned several beautiful polished boards. tHAT'S THE WAY TO PLAY CHESS!

  • #32

    This year Millennium released a Chess Genius Pro version which looks the same but is stronger.  I believe they are bringing out an even stronger wooden version.  So there is a market for these things but it is a dwindling market.

  • #33

    It is a dwindling market. In fact it almost died but I feel there is a slow comeback. Some new machines have been released and some can  now can a choice of several engines to play from! Some are built-in and some can be downloaded. This sounds great! Maybe one day a beautiful board with a Houdini or Komodo or Stockfish engine? Fabulous! Let's hope so! I like the robot ones too! Not the ones with a mechanical arm but the ones that slide the pieces. Unfortunately these were not strong programs and often broke down. It would be nice if these could be strengthened up playing-wise and more mechanically robust!

  • #34

    MrMorphy wrote:

    It bothers me that the Mephisto Master chess computer is the strongest dedicated computer you can get anymore.  I have one and I'm disappointed in its play even on its highest levels, I win more than I should. I have an old Novag Sapphire that beats it most of the time.  If you do any searches for the Mephisto Berlin Pro, or Montreaux or the RISC 2500, not to mention the TASC computer you won't find them anywhere and if you do it will cost a fortune. This tells me that any company that wanted to build a true master level (stronger than Mephisto Master) chess computer, they would likely sell quite a few.  The Mephisto Master isn't anywhere near master level. It might make a low expert, but I doubt it.  Processors and software have advanced enough over the last 10 years that a 2400 plus dedicated computer should be no big problem.

    Indeed. Revelation II. Google it.
  • #35

    I agree! The technology is here to make an updatable, very strong, dedicated, beautiful chess computer. I still believe there is a market if this is done. I feel it's better to play on a beautiful board than to look at a screen even though some pc chess programs offer 3d chess which is better than 2d.

  • #36

    They are Ruling !

  • #37

    if you have the cash this is the best on the market today for a stand alone table top chess computer



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