Struggling to achieve 1800 rating. - Chess Forums - Page 2

Swagmeister123

Aug 24, 2017

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#21

BobbyTalparov wrote:

Swagmeister123 wrote:

I have been trying for around 9, 10 months to achieve an 1800 rating in classical chess, yet i am stuck in the 1700s. What is the difference between a player with my rating and an 1800 player? How can I achieve 1800? How did you players reading this achieve it?

Based upon your response in #5, I'm guessing you are around 12- to 13-years-old now? 1700 at that age is a fairly strong rating.

As to how to break your current plateau, you will need someone to look at your games. Looking at your last one, for example, you forced trades when you had static weaknesses (your pawn structure was shot), which simply allows (in fact, encourages) your opponent to simplify into a winning endgame. Find a stronger player at a local club to go over some games you have already self-annotated and point out where you could have done better.

idk about forcing trades i usually try not to do that. and a five line comment is pretty limited evidence to determine what a person's age is isn't it? im 16 btw (and im not retarded if u would have guessed otherwise lol). anyways thanks for the advice and with the stronger player thing, well im not in a local clib at the moment (would like to be though). i analyze many of my games and i suppose that will be just as good.

Swagmeister123

Aug 24, 2017

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#22

BobbyTalparov wrote:

Swagmeister123 wrote:

I have been trying for around 9, 10 months to achieve an 1800 rating in classical chess, yet i am stuck in the 1700s. What is the difference between a player with my rating and an 1800 player? How can I achieve 1800? How did you players reading this achieve it?

Based upon your response in #5, I'm guessing you are around 12- to 13-years-old now? 1700 at that age is a fairly strong rating.

As to how to break your current plateau, you will need someone to look at your games. Looking at your last one, for example, you forced trades when you had static weaknesses (your pawn structure was shot), which simply allows (in fact, encourages) your opponent to simplify into a winning endgame. Find a stronger player at a local club to go over some games you have already self-annotated and point out where you could have done better.

idk about forcing trades i usually try not to do that. and a five line comment is pretty limited evidence to determine what a person's age is isn't it? im 16 btw (and im not retarded if u would have guessed otherwise lol). anyways thanks for the advice and with the stronger player thing, well im not in a local clib at the moment (would like to be though). i analyze many of my games and i suppose that will be just as good.

Swagmeister123

Aug 24, 2017

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#23

BobbyTalparov wrote:

Swagmeister123 wrote:

I have been trying for around 9, 10 months to achieve an 1800 rating in classical chess, yet i am stuck in the 1700s. What is the difference between a player with my rating and an 1800 player? How can I achieve 1800? How did you players reading this achieve it?

Based upon your response in #5, I'm guessing you are around 12- to 13-years-old now? 1700 at that age is a fairly strong rating.

As to how to break your current plateau, you will need someone to look at your games. Looking at your last one, for example, you forced trades when you had static weaknesses (your pawn structure was shot), which simply allows (in fact, encourages) your opponent to simplify into a winning endgame. Find a stronger player at a local club to go over some games you have already self-annotated and point out where you could have done better.

idk about forcing trades i usually try not to do that. and a five line comment is pretty limited evidence to determine what a person's age is isn't it? im 16 btw (and im not retarded if u would have guessed otherwise lol). anyways thanks for the advice and with the stronger player thing, well im not in a local clib at the moment (would like to be though). i analyze many of my games and i suppose that will be just as good.

Swagmeister123

Aug 24, 2017

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#24

byw sorry for all these identical posts, my internet is slow and i clicked post several times for it to work.

rch451

Aug 24, 2017

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#25

You should be able to delete your own identical posts

Swagmeister123

Aug 24, 2017

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#26

mickynj wrote:

" my ratings here are very inaccurate "

No they are not! Your ratings perfectly reflect your results.

hey buddy watch your tone dont be arrogant here. you have no odea what ur talking about. my ratings are inaccurate as i staed here when i was very young, and now i mainly face the engine. so dont talk about things that you havent a clube about.

Swagmeister123

Aug 24, 2017

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#27

rch451 wrote:

You should be able to delete your own identical posts

ik but i cant seem to figure out how

xjbvsjjbzjbds

Aug 25, 2017

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#28

Swagmeister123 wrote:

I have been trying for around 9, 10 months to achieve an 1800 rating in classical chess, yet i am stuck in the 1700s. What is the difference between a player with my rating and an 1800 player? How can I achieve 1800? How did you players reading this achieve it?

You can learn from IM Jeremy Silman "How to reassess your chess third edition" book, you can strengthen your chess basic and get much positional pattern, try tactic everyday, and learn opening deeper

Brontide88

Aug 25, 2017

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#29

Worrying about rating is a no-win situation. It's a distraction that will make you either take unnecessary chances or play too passively, or - worst of all - play according to your opponent's rating. And you will always set a new goal when you meet one, which is fine as long as you remember the chess itself is the main thing.

Play as many games as you can, at the slowest time controls you can find opponents for, and play the strongest players you can, ideally 100-200 points above you. Then resolve to record your games (it's done for you here) and go back over your games to find your mistakes. Try to learn so you don't keep losing the same way.

Don't be afraid to play other members so your rating here will update. There is good reason the computer games don't count. And from a practical point of view, humans show a lot more variation in style than computers, no matter how the programs are adjusted to play weaker.

Do these things and improve your game, and your rating will surely follow.

LukeLol

Aug 25, 2017

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#30

The difference between all players is pattern recognition, calculation skills and visualization skills. IMO that is also true for the difference between 2700 and 2800 guys (and 2800 guys and e.g. Stockfish).

SIowMove

Aug 25, 2017

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#31

1) Play a lot. The more the better.

2) Review and analyze every game you play. If you're serious about improving, don't be lazy on this part. Review and analysis is where you'll improve the most, by identifying your mistakes, and finding the better moves you should be playing instead.

3) Choose a repertoire and read some books about each opening/defense that you plan to use. IM/GM authors who've been playing professional chess for decades will be able to point out the common strategies and dangers of your openings/defenses to look out for.

4) Read a positional book like Nimzo's "My System" to understand how to create/prevent/maneuver against positional strengths and weaknesses. Understanding positional play will help you find moves and form strategies in both your middle games and your endgames.

5) Tactics, tactics, tactics. Train with tactical puzzles whenever you can. Tactics arise in every game. Sometimes they're obvious, liking a sacrificial combination to win a piece. Sometimes they're subtle, like forcing an exchange to weaken your opponent's pawn structure. Honing your tactical vision will help you find both attacks and defenses (and the moves you may need to prepare and execute them).

Repeat steps 1 and 2, again and again and again.

This should get you to the 2000+ level pretty solidly.

Cherub_Enjel

Aug 25, 2017

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#32

You just need to be better tactically. Everyone knows that you can get to a pretty decent level just be studying tactics very well, and knowing the basics of positional play.

I'd recommend you read "Forcing Chess Moves" by Hertan, and use his tactical thought process.

The 1800s I beat all make tactical mistakes pretty often, even when the position isn't that complicated. Surely that's the way to beat them and get up there.

IMBacon22

Aug 25, 2017

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#33

Swagmeister123 wrote:

mickynj wrote:

" my ratings here are very inaccurate "

No they are not! Your ratings perfectly reflect your results.

hey buddy watch your tone dont be arrogant here. you have no odea what ur talking about. my ratings are inaccurate as i staed here when i was very young, and now i mainly face the engine. so dont talk about things that you havent a clube about.

If this game is a reflection of your ability, then your ratings here are accurate.

https://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=2273797511

Pyotrvich

Aug 25, 2017

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#34

So this 1700 rating you claim to have is only based on beating a computer set to that level? That doesn't mean anything. Ratings are not a measure of chess skill, simply a number that reflects your results. Your ratings seem very accurate considering the number of games played this year, I don't see how your age when you started has anything to do with it even though you keep repeating this point.

Convincing yourself of this fantasy that you're a 1700 player struggling to break into 1800 when you're 1400 is a real effective way to hurt your progress.

xjbvsjjbzjbds

Aug 25, 2017

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#35

I think chess engine rating doesn't mean too much, i once played again 1900 rating engine and just to let you know, the engine is weak, it makes many mistakes.. and when you fight against 1900 human , you will see the big difference.. i have experienced it by myself, about your problem.. just focus on tactics and remember.. "DON'T MAKE UNREASONABLE MOVE", always ask yourself why did you play that move? and be sure you have the answer, i sure am that you will achieve 1800 rating even more.. sorry for using capital, i just want to make it strict.. thanks

Swagmeister123

Aug 25, 2017

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#36

Pyotrvich wrote:

So this 1700 rating you claim to have is only based on beating a computer set to that level? That doesn't mean anything. Ratings are not a measure of chess skill, simply a number that reflects your results. Your ratings seem very accurate considering the number of games played this year, I don't see how your age when you started has anything to do with it even though you keep repeating this point.

Convincing yourself of this fantasy that you're a 1700 player struggling to break into 1800 when you're 1400 is a real effective way to hurt your progress.

hey why am i getting all these arrogant replies here. r u jealous of a mearly 1700 rating? i have taken multiple elo tests as well with upwards of 70 questions, and i have received over 1800 ratings. so please keep quet about the things u dont know about. i know for a fact i am at a 1700 level, and now im working for an 1800 rating. if the only thing u can do is bash what i say pls dont bother commenting here.

Swagmeister123

Aug 25, 2017

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#37

BobbyTalparov wrote:

Swagmeister123 wrote:

No my ratings here are very inaccurate considering I started here when I was around 10. My tactics rating, if it means anything, is almost 1800, although tactics ratings are highly inflated. However I can consistently beat the 1600 rated level 7 computer and occasionaly the 1800 rated level 8 computer.

I had assumed you were talking about OTB, but as I cannot find anyone with your name in FIDE, CFC, or USCF, where are you coming up with the idea that you have a 1700 rating?

i have stated multiple times that i am at this rating. pls do not question me on this anymore. i despise what this thread has become, as all i wanted was good advice to acheive 1800, while all u fags are questioning if im even at 1800. pls stop commenting bs here.

Swagmeister123

Aug 25, 2017

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#38

Swagmeister123 wrote:

BobbyTalparov wrote:

Swagmeister123 wrote:

No my ratings here are very inaccurate considering I started here when I was around 10. My tactics rating, if it means anything, is almost 1800, although tactics ratings are highly inflated. However I can consistently beat the 1600 rated level 7 computer and occasionaly the 1800 rated level 8 computer.

I had assumed you were talking about OTB, but as I cannot find anyone with your name in FIDE, CFC, or USCF, where are you coming up with the idea that you have a 1700 rating?

i have stated multiple times that i am at this rating. pls do not question me on this anymore. i despise what this thread has become, as all i wanted was good advice to acheive 1800, while all u fags are questioning if im even at 1800. pls stop commenting bs here.

*even at 1700

Swagmeister123

Aug 25, 2017

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#39

xjbvsjjbzjbds wrote:

I think chess engine rating doesn't mean too much, i once played again 1900 rating engine and just to let you know, the engine is weak, it makes many mistakes.. and when you fight against 1900 human , you will see the big difference.. i have experienced it by myself, about your problem.. just focus on tactics and remember.. "DON'T MAKE UNREASONABLE MOVE", always ask yourself why did you play that move? and be sure you have the answer, i sure am that you will achieve 1800 rating even more.. sorry for using capital, i just want to make it strict.. thanks

the engines here rarely make mistakes, perhaps u faced one on a crappy site or something, as chesss.com doesnt have a 1900 engine option.

Swagmeister123

Aug 25, 2017

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#40

SIowMove wrote:

1) Play a lot. The more the better.

2) Review and analyze every game you play. If you're serious about improving, don't be lazy on this part. Review and analysis is where you'll improve the most, by identifying your mistakes, and finding the better moves you should be playing instead.

3) Choose a repertoire and read some books about each opening/defense that you plan to use. IM/GM authors who've been playing professional chess for decades will be able to point out the common strategies and dangers of your openings/defenses to look out for.

4) Read a positional book like Nimzo's "My System" to understand how to create/prevent/maneuver against positional strengths and weaknesses. Understanding positional play will help you find moves and form strategies in both your middle games and your endgames.

5) Tactics, tactics, tactics. Train with tactical puzzles whenever you can. Tactics arise in every game. Sometimes they're obvious, liking a sacrificial combination to win a piece. Sometimes they're subtle, like forcing an exchange to weaken your opponent's pawn structure. Honing your tactical vision will help you find both attacks and defenses (and the moves you may need to prepare and execute them).

Repeat steps 1 and 2, again and again and again.

This should get you to the 2000+ level pretty solidly.

thanks for the good advice