Swagmeister. If an engine is only 1800, it can put weak ideas on the board. I tried dumbed down engine today, the computer level 3 here on chess.com I didn't learn anything and won.
Struggling to achieve 1800 rating.
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Aug 25, 2017
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#103
kindaspongey wrote:
Swagmeister123 wrote:
... ill play at the tournament and post my official rating after.
I do not know how things are now where you are, but when I went through this (many decades ago), the system was that a rating would be regarded as "provisional" (potentially very inaccurate) until one had played a large number of "rated" games. I do not remember the precise required number, but I think it was somewhere around twenty.
USCF is provisional for the first 25 games.
DjonniDerevnja wrote:
hey nice man, thanks for the well wishes!
Swagmeister123 wrote:
I really wish yo a fine tournament. And I wish you strong opponents that does analyze the games after the match with you. I was extremely lucky in Konnerud Grand Prix 2016. The tournament crashed wit christmasshopping and very few players came. Only 12, so they merged the A,B and C -class into one field. I met really strong players. Trond Støre, rated 2072 won our game, and after that we analyzed for 90 minutes. Very interesting, and I really learned a lot. I also lost to the super girl , 6 or 7 year old Lykke Merlot Helliesen. She so little that I wanted analyze help from a more adult player. I asked IM Johan Sebastian Christiansen, and he helped us. Those analyze-sessions were among my finest chess experiences, and I felt like 150 rating points more wise after this tournament. I haven't been able to cash in those points yet, because of blundering, but maybe I will soon. 
IMBacon wrote:
i believe this is a fide rated tournament? not sure if fide is provisional too...
kindaspongey wrote:
Swagmeister123 wrote:
... ill play at the tournament and post my official rating after.
I do not know how things are now where you are, but when I went through this (many decades ago), the system was that a rating would be regarded as "provisional" (potentially very inaccurate) until one had played a large number of "rated" games. I do not remember the precise required number, but I think it was somewhere around twenty.
USCF is provisional for the first 25 games.
DjonniDerevnja wrote:
try lvl 8 thats 1800. of course u beat lvl 3 thats only 800. and 1800 is fairly strong, close to 2000 which is expert.
Swagmeister. If an engine is only 1800, it can put weak ideas on the board. I tried dumbed down engine today, the computer level 3 here on chess.com I didn't learn anything and won.
DjonniDerevnja wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
DjonniDerevnja write:
... En engine should at least perform at 2400, and if given enough time 3000+. ...
Has there been much testing of engine performance at long time controls? I'm thinking of the Valvo-Deep Thought games, but, of course, that was a long time ago.
I dont know, but I have heard that Stockfish , Houdine and Komodo is above 3000 if you give them enough time. The TV GM journalists like Ashley and Seirawan uses engines all the time and helped by them they sometimes find moves stronger than what super-GMs actually plays.
It is one thing to find moves useful for use in a game at common time controls, but might it be another to defeat someone in a game where the human has the same time as the machine to think?
Swagmeister, even if your technical strength is at ca 1800 dont be disappointed if you lose a lot against 1300-1500 players. Long chess over the board is a very different environment, and much more psychologic factors messes up. It takes some tournament to adjust unless you are natural born tournament -talent. Your goal shouldn't be a perfect prestation , but only to get the experience and friends. About blunders. Try to avoiding any moves faster than a minute. It is ok to make a mistake if you have put in three minutes of looking and thinking, but I have done more annoying blunders and been disappointed with myself for moving that wrong move in only five seconds. My goal is to avoid blunders done faster than a minute.
I am a natural born chess talent. My only teenage-year in chess was crowned with total club championship in Åsnes Sjakklubb (and then I quit). In my comeback 37 years after I have been beaten more than I won by good adults, and small children. Players rated below 1200 (and above 2000)have crushed me beautifully. Those tournamentplayers is not an easy cup of tea regardless of low rating.
DjonniDerevnja wrote:
Alright mate thanks for the advice. I definitely won't be underestimating any of my opponents.
Swagmeister, even if your technical strength is at ca 1800 dont be disappointed if you lose a lot against 1300-1500 players. Long chess over the board is a very different environment, and much more psychologic factors messes up. It takes some tournament to adjust unless you are natural born tournament -talent. Your goal shouldn't be a perfect prestation , but only to get the experience and friends. About blunders. Try to avoiding any moves faster than a minute. It is ok to make a mistake if you have put in three minutes of looking and thinking, but I have done more annoying blunders and been disappointed with myself for moving that wrong move in only five seconds. My goal is to avoid blunders done faster than a minute.
I am a natural born chess talent. My only teenage-year in chess was crowned with total club championship in Åsnes Sjakklubb (and then I quit). In my comeback 37 years after I have been beaten more than I won by good adults, and small children. Players rated below 1200 (and above 2000)have crushed me beautifully. Those tournamentplayers is not an easy cup of tea regardless of low rating.
Swagmeister123 wrote:
DjonniDerevnja wrote:
Swagmeister, even if your technical strength is at ca 1800 dont be disappointed if you lose a lot against 1300-1500 players. Long chess over the board is a very different environment, and much more psychologic factors messes up. It takes some tournament to adjust unless you are natural born tournament -talent. Your goal shouldn't be a perfect prestation , but only to get the experience and friends. About blunders. Try to avoiding any moves faster than a minute. It is ok to make a mistake if you have put in three minutes of looking and thinking, but I have done more annoying blunders and been disappointed with myself for moving that wrong move in only five seconds. My goal is to avoid blunders done faster than a minute.
I am a natural born chess talent. My only teenage-year in chess was crowned with total club championship in Åsnes Sjakklubb (and then I quit). In my comeback 37 years after I have been beaten more than I won by good adults, and small children. Players rated below 1200 (and above 2000)have crushed me beautifully. Those tournamentplayers is not an easy cup of tea regardless of low rating.
Alright mate thanks for the advice. I definitely won't be underestimating any of my opponents.
Good plan! I think it was GM Simen Agdestein that stated that all rated players, regardless of the ratingnumber, was diffficult to handle.The little girl I wrote about, Lykke Merlot Helliesen actually won against GM Agdestein in a simultan when she was 5 or 6 years old. I think she was unrated back then. Lykke is a tactical mathematichal monster.
Aug 26, 2017
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#111
Swagmeister123 wrote:
DjonniDerevnja wrote:
Swagmeister, even if your technical strength is at ca 1800 dont be disappointed if you lose a lot against 1300-1500 players. Long chess over the board is a very different environment, and much more psychologic factors messes up. It takes some tournament to adjust unless you are natural born tournament -talent. Your goal shouldn't be a perfect prestation , but only to get the experience and friends. About blunders. Try to avoiding any moves faster than a minute. It is ok to make a mistake if you have put in three minutes of looking and thinking, but I have done more annoying blunders and been disappointed with myself for moving that wrong move in only five seconds. My goal is to avoid blunders done faster than a minute.
I am a natural born chess talent. My only teenage-year in chess was crowned with total club championship in Åsnes Sjakklubb (and then I quit). In my comeback 37 years after I have been beaten more than I won by good adults, and small children. Players rated below 1200 (and above 2000)have crushed me beautifully. Those tournamentplayers is not an easy cup of tea regardless of low rating.
Alright mate thanks for the advice. I definitely won't be underestimating any of my opponents.
Play the board, not the rating.
IMBacon wrote:
will do
Swagmeister123 wrote:
DjonniDerevnja wrote:
Swagmeister, even if your technical strength is at ca 1800 dont be disappointed if you lose a lot against 1300-1500 players. Long chess over the board is a very different environment, and much more psychologic factors messes up. It takes some tournament to adjust unless you are natural born tournament -talent. Your goal shouldn't be a perfect prestation , but only to get the experience and friends. About blunders. Try to avoiding any moves faster than a minute. It is ok to make a mistake if you have put in three minutes of looking and thinking, but I have done more annoying blunders and been disappointed with myself for moving that wrong move in only five seconds. My goal is to avoid blunders done faster than a minute.
I am a natural born chess talent. My only teenage-year in chess was crowned with total club championship in Åsnes Sjakklubb (and then I quit). In my comeback 37 years after I have been beaten more than I won by good adults, and small children. Players rated below 1200 (and above 2000)have crushed me beautifully. Those tournamentplayers is not an easy cup of tea regardless of low rating.
Alright mate thanks for the advice. I definitely won't be underestimating any of my opponents.
Play the board, not the rating.
IMBacon wrote:
Play the board, not the rating.
Underrated players have an ratingadvantage, because they get underestimatet. I had a good game before I got FIDE-rating and was at Norwegian 878. My opponent was 1800 FIDE and 1600 Norwegian. He was programmed to win. What happend was that I got an early tiny advantage with a perfect black sicilian dragon, and in stead of fighting for a draw as he would if my rating was 1000 higher, he fought for victory, gave a bishop for a knight while sacrifying his pawnstructure for an open rookline . I was I able to force swopping away his other bishop for a knight and sat with the longrange bishoppair while he went attacking with two knights. I did hold the attack and my longrange bishops both watched his knights in one end of the board and supported a pawn in the other end, running for Queen. He was mate in 78.
Aug 27, 2017
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#114
DjonniDerevnja wrote:
I am a natural born chess talent.
I'd say "chess talent" is reserved for players over 2700 FIDE.
Regarding the OP wanting to reach 1800+ though, the good news is one doesn't need talent to do so. Just some dedication and practice.
SIowMove wrote:
DjonniDerevnja wrote:
I am a natural born chess talent.
I'd say "chess talent" is reserved for players over 2700 FIDE.
Regarding the OP wanting to reach 1800+ though, the good news is one doesn't need talent to do so. Just some dedication and practice.
2700 fide is way past talent. They were talents when they were from unrated up to 2500, after that they became grandmasters. I am not happy with myself quitting chess after only one year, believing that my talent wanst good enough. Now its to late for me to become very good. 37 years out of chess is too long break. I am joking about becoming cmallmaster (CM) at 93, but I dont really believe in it. The most super talent these days is not a 2700, it is Praggananda, and he is at ca 2490.
Aug 27, 2017
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#116
I am 1900 fide and totally untalented. As my nick suggests I am a Patzer who blunders every other game, at least!
Blunderpatzer wrote:
I am 1900 fide and totally untalented. As my nick suggests I am a Patzer who blunders every other game, at least!
You can easily win a lot more. Only take away the blunders. I know a lot of talenteted children, some of them not much above 1000. Hy Chang Vo is one of them. He won a beautyprize for a game in Oslo Chess Festival 2016. Actually I have not met any untalented kids in otb-tournaments. Of course , when I speak about talent I am not thinking of Magnus Carlsen -class, but smart, good, interesting players.
DjonniDerevnja wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
Play the board, not the rating.
Underrated players have an ratingadvantage, because they get underestimatet. I had a good game before I got FIDE-rating and was at Norwegian 878. My opponent was 1800 FIDE and 1600 Norwegian. He was programmed to win. What happend was that I got an early tiny advantage with a perfect black sicilian dragon, and in stead of fighting for a draw as he would if my rating was 1000 higher, he fought for victory, gave a bishop for a knight while sacrifying his pawnstructure for an open rookline . I was I able to force swopping away his other bishop for a knight and sat with the longrange bishoppair while he went attacking with two knights. I did hold the attack and my longrange bishops both watched his knights in one end of the board and supported a pawn in the other end, running for Queen. He was mate in 78.
Good fighting spirit, Djonni.
Blunderpatzer wrote:
I am 1900 fide and totally untalented. As my nick suggests I am a Patzer who blunders every other game, at least!
A problem with players that have a lot skills and knowledge is that you know so much that you can understand how insufficient this knowledge is. The more you know , the more you see that you dont know. Get over it. Such knowledge of incompetence is the knowledge of a true expert. Fact is that you are above average for active competing players, and that is very good seen from ordinary peoples point of view. I like to judge you 1900s as very good players, and such judgement makes it taste better the day I can beat one of you.
... En engine should at least perform at 2400, and if given enough time 3000+. ...
Has there been much testing of engine performance at long time controls? I'm thinking of the Valvo-Deep Thought games, but, of course, that was a long time ago.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1472109
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1472110
I dont know, but I have heard that Stockfish , Houdine and Komodo is above 3000 if you give them enough time. The TV GM journalists like Ashley and Seirawan uses engines all the time and helped by them they sometimes find moves stronger than what super-GMs actually plays.