Stuck Under 1300 for 16 Years!

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JuergenWerner
IMKeto wrote:

6 years here and 6000+ games of speed chess.  And you cant figure out why youre stuck?

Stuck under 1500 for a few years with a total of 19,618 games on chesscom as of this post!

pdve
Anti-Communication wrote:

I know there are other threads out there about not improving and being stuck, but I'm convinced no story is as scary as this. Not even asking specifically for advise to fix my problem, but mainly what anyone might think be the plausible cause(s). Here's some background. I started playing  chess at age 5. In between then and seven months ago, I'd played a lot very sporadically and studied almost none. The minimal studying and thousands of games in the past seemed to have barely improved me, but eight months ago I'd decided to give studying an honest try.

I hear people say that one should easily climb past 1500 or 1600 with simple tactical skills gained through puzzles. So I started solving puzzles. Steadily improved and made it past a puzzle rating of 2000 over those seven months and 48 combined hours. I also read a couple chapters from Nimzovich's 'My System' about passed pawns, pawn chains, discover checks, etc, and went above and beyond by studying a bit of opening theory, watching masters' games, and analyzing most of my games. I play a lot of bullet, but have been doing rapid as well and trying to implement my new tactical skills, which I know I have. I encourage anyone to look at my stats. My rapid rating is barely higher than when I started my account six years ago. It is improving slightly, but at this rate it'll take a year to reach 1400.

I'm really interested to understand what's going on mentally with me. When I play against someone say 1500, they seem almost infallible. I can hardly catch mistakes and take advantage. I know they're making tactical mistakes though. I, on the other hand, exert so much energy on every move, but will slip up on one or two moves which the other player will instantly take advantage of. I think I might be a less visually oriented person than average. Is it possible for someone to just posses an immutable inability to play chess? Is this normal? I don't think I'm doing anything wrong.

 

No based on your bullet rating you do not lack ability. However you are applying your ability in the wrong way i.e. playing for time and thereby avoiding variations which give you advantage but which will take time to calculate. So you have to do a 180 degree turn and completely quit bullet.

JuergenWerner

Yah, bullet made my game worse

cellen01

If people want to get better, people should play rapid. I started playing rapid and then slowly turned into bullet.

StormCentre3
dpnorman wrote:

Most people do not improve at chess. Or at least they start playing chess, they learn a few things about the game and they improve up to some level, and then they stay at that level for a long time. Improvement takes an enormous amount of playing and studying, even for a very young player (who will be able to improve more easily).

 

So if you want to improve at chess you need to be an exception to the rule. Your dedication to the game therefore needs to be exceptional. 

Nails it on the head.

Most all people (can’t really begin to call them players yet) never improve. They start and finish in a matter of a few games and days and call it quits. Theses are the smarter ones in a sense as they realize chess is not a way for them to be spending their valuable time.

Those that go on and improve do so because they are dedicated. Dedicated to the sport as a valuable pastime, one that enriches their valuable  time by energies well spent. Not for everyone. The confusion begins with the notion of the energy put forth is solely rewarded by improvement - which is measured by rating. These people become chess players- but they too sooner or later wise up and realize chess is not for them as they come to gripes with personal values. There simply are too many ways to wile away our leisure time… that does not require a measure of dedication directed towards self fulfillment and not abstract comparisons to other players.

Love for the game usually precedes the necessary dedication. Notions of proving superiority are fleeting - resulting in ideas of being stuck at a given level. Players never become stuck when playing for the love of a hobby.

Chuck639

Everybody’s progress is different and each individual learns differently.

I literally drunkingly sky rocketed from 800-1200 in a couple of months and then struggled at 1200 sobered. I would almost finish a bottle of whiskey while streaming and chess in one night.

1300 to 1400 was one tournament play for me so I have next to no idea what it was like.

A couple of things I did worked on was tactics and middle game planning. Coming out of the opening equalized and a decent end game were my strengths pre-1300. My poor tendencies were to give a game away and miss a critical move or tactic.

Playing speed chess actually helped my improved by getting more exposure and experience in the pattern recognition in certain areas of the game and it was a lot of fun. Having fun being important.

Many will contest, I actually put a small repertoire together to achieve playable positions and enjoyable games. This improved my accurate play, speed and middle game planning.

Lastly, I did worked with a coach and a few strong sparring partners to get me pass the hump.

technical_knockout

lessons, puzzles & daily games.

Anti-Communication

I just tilted 250 points in bullet sad.png. Worst tilt ever. If I keep playing rapid I'll be 1200 as well. I guess all progress is in vain. Maybe I'll take a 1 week break.

MisterWindUpBird

Progress for me has a very predictable look about it on a graph. Sloooow progress, a sudden big improvement, a sudden decline then slooow progress... on repeat, but with the baseline inching upwards. 

I think the decline after each upward leap is a complacency or over-confidence tilt. Breaks are good...

StormCentre3
Anti-Communication wrote:

I just tilted 250 points in bullet . Worst tilt ever. If I keep playing rapid I'll be 1200 as well. I guess all progress is in vain. Maybe I'll take a 1 week break.

Quit because rating expectations not met ?

Obviously playing chess for you centers about “something to prove”. Perhaps a misguided notion chess represents a superiority of intellect. Lose and feel the desire to quit? Clearly the game is being played for all the wrong reasons. Save yourself a lot of future headaches. Get a patch, like one of those smoking ones and quit all together. Your life will become so much simpler.

technical_knockout

that's how they play at your level.

technical_knockout

wear your 2000 rapid badge & pretend you're an expert all you like, nick... fact is my average rating is over 200 points higher than yours & every one of my puzzle stats is superior as well.  you do realize we're discussing daily here?

technical_knockout

1689 rapid 3559 puzzles, guy:

i haven't even tried to get higher ratings... i've been busy collecting achievements & working on puzzles.

shouldn't you be teaching an opening trap class?

SmallerCircles

What's the best way/place to play correspondence chess? 

ninjaswat

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Ok so I feel daily is a fine tool to improve if you don't do what I did with it to hit 1600-1700 (i.e. spam moves in many games)

@ChessWithNickolay who cares if their rating is lower that has no standing as a legitimate argument + my play seemed best at 1785... lol

Can you not discuss politely? I thought you were trying to change?

ninjaswat

Btw neither of you have precedence over the OP, I would much rather learn about their journey than look at some stupid debate about daily chess...

If you didn't realize, I have been following this forum for several months, but I say nothing when I have nothing to say, unlike some.

Anti-Communication

Here we go again. My bullet tilted 300 points 🤮. It's not worth it anymore.

Anti-Communication

I would use a blood vomiting emoji if there was one.

sndeww

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dogs4evr

um..........