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Earthpig

While it may not be unsportsman like; it is usually a great waste of time. I much prefer to start another game. On occasion I have resigned from the stronger side when playing an off hand game; I mean the poor bloke must be in a desperate need for a win to play on. In tournaments I try to finish off my opponent as expidetiously as possible in order to conserve resting time before the next round.

TheOldReb
Estragon wrote:

The best course is to checkmate directly without toying with the opponent, however obstinate.  If he wants to play it out to mate, that's his right - you cannot be forced to resign under the rules.  Just get it over with and move on.

In games among weak players, multiple Queens are not uncommon, but they are fairly rare at the higher levels of strength.  One exception comes to mind:  Bogoljubov-Alekhine, Hastings 1922.  Alekhine sacrificed his Queen to promote a pawn a couple of times; when he gave up his third Queen to force promoting to his fourth, Bogoljubov resigned.  Probably one of the 20 best games of all time.


 While this is true its equally true that noone can be forced to deliver mate as quickly as possible. Good players rarely ever continue when their position is hopeless.

kokakola
Earthpig wrote:

While it may not be unsportsman like; it is usually a great waste of time. I much prefer to start another game. On occasion I have resigned from the stronger side when playing an off hand game; I mean the poor bloke must be in a desperate need for a win to play on. In tournaments I try to finish off my opponent as expidetiously as possible in order to conserve resting time before the next round.


I'd get more satisfaction and less mental strain by giving a hopeless non-resigner a nice mate with a pawn than by putting additional mental effort into a already won game in order to find the fastest mate. In most cases it is possible to do it using conditional moves (trapping opponent into a corner where he has only one move is typically what it would take to checkmate him anyway), so this doesn't even take much more time from me.  OTB may be a different case, but on the Internet I don't see any reason why not to do this.

kco
Ender_the_dragon wrote:

You need to be careful with that one.  You may be just 'having fun', but many players take insult when you don't 'move in for the kill'.  On top of that, deliberately underpromoting is often regarded as insulting and in this case may have been perceived as 'rubbing salt in the wound'.  You would need to be on pretty freindly terms with your opponent, I think, in order not to ruffle feathers with what you did.

Safer and more widely accepted by far is to make your way to the shortest mate you can see.


 If I had this promoted to a Queen is would have been stalemate so I underpromoted to a knight instead and won the game a few moves later

redsoxfan33

what if you do not have enough queens?

Scarblac
redsoxfan33 wrote:

what if you do not have enough queens?


In tournaments, you stop the clock, call the arbiter and he'll bring another. In casual play, just use whatever in place of a queen - upside down rooks, action figures, etc.

Streptomicin
Nytik wrote:

Online chess is exactly the same as OTB chess.

So yes, you can have multiple queens. It is rare though. (It usually occurs when someone is very unsportsmanlike and promotes all his pawns for the sake of it!)


Bean5769

i am sorry for what i have done by asking this question!!! Frown  did not know it would cause such a stir!

batgirl

For the record-

"FIDE Law 3.7E
When a pawn reaches the rank furthest from its starting position it must be exchanged as part of the same move for a queen, rook, bishop or knight of the same colour [i.e. a  white pawn can't become a black rook -my edit]. The player's choice is not restricted to pieces that have been captured previously. This exchange of a pawn for another piece is called 'promotion' and the effect of the new piece is immediate."

Nowhere that I could find does FIDE prohibit 2 same-colored Bishops.

kco

I think AnthonyCG was just pulling our legs.

batgirl

I hope not because some people may believe it.

DMX21x1

Just because it annoys you doesn't mean it's unsportsmanlike, it's the rules.  I like doing that if the chance presents itself, 3 queens up?  That's a no-brainer.

Streptomicin

Bobby Fischer was the best!

DMX21x1
mrwrangler wrote:

Having a harem of Queens can be counter productive to winning. It is easier to wind up in a stalmate situation. Always look at the board before promoting.


 Good point.  I do like the idea of a harem though.  Wink

DMX21x1
Streptomicin wrote:

Bobby Fischer was the best!


 Yep he was, but he isn't now.  Kasparov could have beaten him with a hangover. 

thegreatchessplayerrzz

I once had six queens, a bishop, and a knight. My opponent only had his king.