Supreme Intelligence Vs Logic. - (God) Vs (Houdini)

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TheGreatOogieBoogie

I'd say a draw.  Houdini is practically close enough to perfect, God can't squeeze out the win.  God maybe for a 1 minute game though but for longer time controls a draw. 

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InDetention

If it was a time control game,then god would win because god can move like 9 'extillon 'oves 'n a 'econd.'ut if it 'as NOT,'hen I'ould 'uess 'hat 'ould be a 'raw.

jaaas
RisingGrounds wrote:
I think Houdini3 is the closest thing we have to God on the chess board.

Dead wrong. The calculation horizon of a chess engine that's on its own is, just as that of a human, limited.

"The closest thing we have to God on the chess board" are currently the 7-man Lomonosov tablebases.

tmkroll

"God does not play chess." ... wait I think it was "dice."

jaaas
ScorpionPackAttack wrote:

Houdini is practically close enough to perfect

The same was being claimed by some for earlier versions of leading engines, but somehow they are no match for today's leading engines. How come...?

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jaaas
tmkroll wrote:

"God does not play chess." ... wait I think it was "dice."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endgame_tablebase#.22Play_chess_with_God.22

205thsq

everyone agrees If it was a time control game God would win, if it was not a time control game God would simply ponder His next move untill the machine turned to dust, To God a day is a 1000 years and a 1000 years is but a day. God wins. 

InDetention
juicysnail wrote:
tmkroll wrote:

"God does play chess." ... wait I think it was "dice."

fixed.

jaaas
205thsq wrote:

everyone agrees If it was a time control game God would win, if it was not a time control game God would simply ponder His next move untill the machine turned to dust, To God a day is a 1000 years and a 1000 years is but a day. God wins. 

He would not need to ponder, he would simply know the perfect play (as well as the ultimate game result) from the starting postion, just as the existing tablebases know the result and perfect play for any position with up to 7 chessmen on the board. Once an engine which has tablebase access finds the current position there, it stops making any calculations and simply follows the optimal line.

macer75
Xyzez wrote:
RisingGrounds wrote:
tmkroll wrote:

"God does not play chess." ... wait I think it was "dice."

Hilarious. But God Does Play Chess. :P It's A Great Game. :)

Heretic, go to hell.

God does play chess and we are all pieces on his chessboard. Most of us are mere pawns, and a select few get to be more valuable pieces. Also, Got's chess game is unending, with old pieces being constantly sacrificed and new pieces constantly introduced, sorta like bughouse (which is a fitting name since in God's eyes each individual piece is as small and unimportant in the course of the entire game as bugs). While we're still on the board, rooks, knights, bishops and queens may be more valuable than pawns, but once we're captured none of it matters anymore.

macer75

... and the case is your coffin.

As for the free will part, you may have free will to go where you want and do what you like, but in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. Say, for example, if one country invades another country, then that's a big thing for people across the globe. but if you look at it from the perspective of the universe, why does anything that happens on one tiny planet out of Billions (?) matter? Even if earth, or the entire Milky Way were suddenly destroyed, why would that matter?

tmkroll

Yes, I think Neil Peart was the first to say that. :p

macer75
Xyzez wrote:
macer75 wrote:

... and the case is your coffin.

As for the free will part, you may have free will to go where you want and do what you like, but in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. Say, for example, if one country invades another country, then that's a big thing for people across the globe. but if you look at it from the perspective of the universe, why does anything that happens on one tiny planet out of Billions (?) matter? Even if earth, or the entire Milky Way were suddenly destroyed, why would that matter?

What you said isn't even worth reading, some people don't get proper burials or caskets, you think you're smart but you're kinda stupid.

smart or stupid... in the end does it matter?

BryPin

Houdini did magic didn't he?

How bad would it be if chess.com thought God was cheating and close his account?

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